Posted by kam77:

ONLY 2 teams are under the cap. All the successful teams are over it.
Therefore, YES, you win in the NBA by being over the cap.

BUT did the teams go over the cap AFTER they got their franchise player or were they always over and still found their franchise guy?

i bet in most cases (if not all), they were under the cap when they got their stud but then added pieces (regardless of cost) to help him.

Posted by kam77:

ONLY 2 teams are under the cap. All the successful teams are over it.
Therefore, YES, you win in the NBA by being over the cap.

BUT obviously, you want to be over the cap because you have a couple really talented guys who you think can win it all or at least contend.

Nobody likes the high salaries we are paying to guys like Marbury and Francis, and even still Allan Houston this year. These are salaries from an old day and age. Marbury and Francis and Houston still makin 60 million combined is what kills us.

You don't build a team by being over the cap, you build a team by being under the cap. You draft good players, you sign FA's which leads you to being over the cap. Not the other way around.

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by Andrew:

If the Dolans have more money and a couple of contract buyouts really don't hurt them....why are they so afraid of rebuilding?

The Knicks are owned by a corporation which has to show an increased profit quarterly for their shareholders...The Garden generates a huge amount of revenue which helps the bottom line of the stock..Rebuilding will leave the Garden empty and therefore hurt revenues...Dolan owns mucho shares of cablevision, a dip in share price is a dip in his wealth...If you own a stock, wouldn't you do all you can to keep the price at the highest level possible?...The garden is a small part of what's happening at Cablevision but it still adds up...



[Edited by - holfresh on 01-17-2007 12:41 PM]

Dolan himself said that in terms of Cablevision as a whole, the Knicks and the revenues that they produce are miniscule when compared to their other assets and revenue streams.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by kam77:

ONLY 2 teams are under the cap. All the successful teams are over it.
Therefore, YES, you win in the NBA by being over the cap.

BUT obviously, you want to be over the cap because you have a couple really talented guys who you think can win it all or at least contend.

Nobody likes the high salaries we are paying to guys like Marbury and Francis, and even still Allan Houston this year. These are salaries from an old day and age. Marbury and Francis and Houston still makin 60 million combined is what kills us.

You don't build a team by being over the cap, you build a team by being under the cap. You draft good players, you sign FA's which leads you to being over the cap. Not the other way around.

You speak like you've never had to finish someone elses crappy job. When was the last time the Knicks were under the cap?

Posted by kam77:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by kam77:

ONLY 2 teams are under the cap. All the successful teams are over it.
Therefore, YES, you win in the NBA by being over the cap.

BUT obviously, you want to be over the cap because you have a couple really talented guys who you think can win it all or at least contend.

Nobody likes the high salaries we are paying to guys like Marbury and Francis, and even still Allan Houston this year. These are salaries from an old day and age. Marbury and Francis and Houston still makin 60 million combined is what kills us.

You don't build a team by being over the cap, you build a team by being under the cap. You draft good players, you sign FA's which leads you to being over the cap. Not the other way around.

You speak like you've never had to finish someone elses crappy job. When was the last time the Knicks were under the cap?

That doesn't absolve Isiah just because his predecessors weren't under the cap.

>>We would still be over the cap today if all Isiah did was draft. No trades, no Free agent signings. Allan Houston and Shandon Andersons contracts are still going. Them two alone represent 50% of the cap.

>>Add in 13 others and lets say they average 2 million each, well hello, we're over the cap by a couple dollars and can't do anything.


holfresh - I glanced your thread starter just as I was posting this morning...

kam77 makes an outstanding point about the Houston and Shandon Anderson contracts, that few are willing to accept.

A few years back I had the opportinity to meet one of the financial suits with the Atlanta Hawks. His comments regarding the fiscal management practices around the entire league were eye-opening.

Form that moment on I decided not to sweat it, hence...

"It Ain't My Money"

Posted by Bonn1997:

I think Briggs is right about a few posters here being MSG employees...

Or being Isiah Thomas.