Posted by TheGame:

Posted by EnySpree:

I didn't see this thread till I tms woke me up.

Too lazy to cut and paste but this to me is just stupid ass trade. If isiah did a rade like this the basketsll community would rip him a new one.

You are right about that. IT trades a sparkplug like Boykins for Blake and everyone would be saying he is crazy. It would be like us trading Nate and Mardy Collins for Steve Blake. There would not be a poster here not calling for IT's head, yet Denver will likely get no grief for the move (only IT gets called out for bad trades). It is a stupid trade. You get Iverson to go for a championship and then you trade an improtant backup to save a few million on the luxury tax. Stupid trade.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by crzymdups:

how is it that all these teams get injury exceptions and we never got one for Allan Houston or Marcus Camby or Penny Hardaway or Larry Johnson or even Ewing in 97?

or even McDyess?

You have to have a player out for a certain amount of time (like an entire season). I thought we had gotten them for LJ and Luc Longley, but never used them.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by EnySpree:

I didn't see this thread till I tms woke me up.

Too lazy to cut and paste but this to me is just stupid ass trade. If isiah did a rade like this the basketsll community would rip him a new one.

You are right about that. IT trades a sparkplug like Boykins for Blake and everyone would be saying he is crazy. It would be like us trading Nate and Mardy Collins for Steve Blake. There would not be a poster here not calling for IT's head, yet Denver will likely get no grief for the move (only IT gets called out for bad trades). It is a stupid trade. You get Iverson to go for a championship and then you trade an improtant backup to save a few million on the luxury tax. Stupid trade.

First off, Nate is considerably better than Boykins, IMHO. Second is that Denver is a team that is going all-in on a championship run, and Blake honestly fits their team better than Boykins. A few people also mentioned the salary savings, which doesn't hurt. This is one of those deals when the Nuggets maybe didn't top out of the perceived value of Boykins, but it helps their squad. Frankly, I think Boykins is way overrated and I really don't see why people are making a big deal out of the Nuggets losing him.

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by TheGame:

Well, I think that Nate will be a better player than Earl Boykins after a few years of experience but I disagree that Nate is clearly better than Boykins now in anything other than athleticism. Boykins can carry a team for an entire quarter with his offense. Steve Blake is a solid player, but I would not call him a defensive stopper and he certainly is not about to carry your team. I understand about trying to save some money and getting a pass-first PG, but I question whether Blake is going to really be an improvement over Boykins in the team's ability to compete this year, plus you give up Hodges, who you drafted with a first round pick, and $700,000 and don't even get a second round pick in return. Plus, Boykins had only one more year on his contract, so it is not like you got rid of a long-term deal. Not a good trade IMO.

i think allen iverson was the improvement over boykins. they just got one of the most explosive scorers in the league, losing boykins isn't a big deal, he was redundant. clinging desperately to talent isn't necessarily a good strategy when it leads to chemistry issues. i can't think of a good example though.

Posted by Anji:

Posted by crzymdups:

how is it that all these teams get injury exceptions and we never got one for Allan Houston or Marcus Camby or Penny Hardaway or Larry Johnson or even Ewing in 97?

or even McDyess?

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-11-2007 4:31 PM]

I know.................. Teams have injury exceptions left and right, but I think the last one the knicks got was for LJ........ or was it Luc Longely???

Posted by TheGame:

If Boykins was a chemistry problem, then so be it. Only Karl knows that, but unlike the Knicks, Nuggets don't have an overwhelming number of scorers. Iverson, Melo, J.R. Smith, and Camby are the primary offensive weapons. Boykins was the sparkplug off the bench. If Iverson, Melo, or Smith is hurt for a few games, is Steve Blake going to fill the scoring loss? To me, you limit yourself when you replace a Boykins with Blake. All I am saying is Denver should have gotten more for Boykins (at least a draft pick). If IT had made this trade, he would be getting killed by the media.