Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

^ haha, nice post. Too bad we'd still get beat by a team like the Pistons in the playoffs with that lineup. I can almost picture the chemistry end ego issues with that lineup.

[Edited by - jrzyhustla on 01-10-2007 11:52 AM]

Posted by TMS:

Posted by djsunyc:

you go after ray only after a top PF is acquired.

if we're able to trade for jermaine, then package crawford + nate + 2007 bulls pick for ray in an ALL IN type of move.

otherwise, no point in getting ray to play with this group.

but i am worried that crawford is going to opt out and then we're going to sign him to a bigger extension.

you wanna push in all your chips for a shot at a title this year? this is about as ALL-IN as you can get:

1 - Curry, Frye, Francis, CHI's pick & cash for Jermaine O'Neal & Jamaal Tinsley

IND gets cap relief, 2 talented young players to build around & a pick... anything they get from Francis would be a bonus (deals between Bird & IT are unlikely though unless a 3rd team gets involved)... NY gets a legitimate franchise calibre player who is a presence on both ends of the floor, & a good backup PG born & bred in NY who can hit the big shot & likes crunchtime pressure.

2 - Jamal, Malik & Nate for Ray Allen & Damien Wilkens

SEA gets cap relief & 2 exciting young home town players to play alongside Rashard for years to come, NY gets a legitimate star calibre shooter & a backup SG who can defend w/family ties to this franchise

3 - sign CWebb

replaces Frye's perimeter shooting in the frontcourt & adds a low post passer & some veteran leadership & playoff experience to the mix... would play well w/Marbury in a pick & roll style game... lack of defensive mobility is offset somewhat by the added shotblocking from O'Neal.


C - O'Neal / Cato / Turd
PF - CWebb / Lee
SF - Jefferies / Balkman
SG - Allen / Wilkens
PG - Marbury / Tinsley / Collins

[Edited by - TMS on 01-10-2007 11:39 AM]

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Solace:

The flaw in your plan is, honestly, I wouldn't trade Curry + Frye for Jermaine. It's just too much. On the flip side, I think Seattle requires more for Ray Allen. It's still an interesting proposition, though. As much as I knock Curry, I wouldn't trade him, unless another team gave high value to him. Curry + Frye + Francis for JO, too much in my book.

there isn't a team in the NBA that wants any part of Steve Francis' contract, so if you want to unload him in a deal, you're going to have to add Frye as a motivator... Curry & Frye is a big package to give up, but you're also getting a good backup PG in Tinsley too, don't forget that part... he's not just some scrub player... i've consistently watched him make big shots in crunchtime & in the playoffs... he's like Jamal in that respect that he doesn't shrink when the pressure is on.

anyway, how much more value do you expect to get for Curry in a trade? Dwight Howard? Lebron James? to tell u the truth i think expecting to get Jermaine for a Curry/Frye package is a stretch on the Knicks' part, not the other way around.

you're probably right about SEA part though... but at his age & w/that contract, i don't give them any more than that.