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With this much love and concern for LEE, and with all this hate for Isiah
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subzero0
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1/4/2007  9:26 PM
Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.
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1/4/2007  9:33 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

you know what, sub's right. isiah has been the best knicks gm the past 3 seasons.
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1/4/2007  9:34 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Isiah's the only GM we've had in years. Honestly, one could argue that Isiah has been worse than Layden. That's downright scary.
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1/4/2007  9:55 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Isiah's the only GM we've had in years. Honestly, one could argue that Isiah has been worse than Layden. That's downright scary.

I've actually kind of argued that point with Silver off-board. He didn't agree with me(surprise!) but I'm still right.
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1/4/2007  10:18 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Saying Isiah is better than Layden is like comparing a Pinto to a Neon... they both suck... ALOT.
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1/4/2007  10:23 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Saying Isiah is better than Layden is like comparing a Pinto to a Neon... they both suck... ALOT.

Yet somehow this Knick team have you at the edge of your seats...And if they run off ten games you would be swear that this is the year they turned it all around...



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1/4/2007  10:26 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Saying Isiah is better than Layden is like comparing a Pinto to a Neon... they both suck... ALOT.

Yet somehow this Knick team have you at the edge of your seats...And if they run off ten games you would be swear that this is the year they turned it all around...




This team is 14-21, they aren't keeping me on the edge of my seat, thats for sure. This team as currently constructed has no chance of winning a title which is the only thing I'm concerned with. It's time for a new GM to come in and work out the wrinkles in this team.
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1/4/2007  10:28 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

Slice it anyway you like but Thomas is the best GM we have had in years. Who of you would rather go back to the days of LAyden.

Oh how quickly we forget.

Saying Isiah is better than Layden is like comparing a Pinto to a Neon... they both suck... ALOT.

Yet somehow this Knick team have you at the edge of your seats...And if they run off ten games you would be swear that this is the year they turned it all around...




This team is 14-21, they aren't keeping me on the edge of my seat, thats for sure. This team as currently constructed has no chance of winning a title which is the only thing I'm concerned with. It's time for a new GM to come in and work out the wrinkles in this team.

Work out the wrinkles, so you are saying there is a foundation then??

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1/4/2007  10:34 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Work out the wrinkles, so you are saying there is a foundation then??


No, I'm not saying theres a foundation. Theres a few players who are decent but there is yet to be a player to build around. When I say work out the wrinkles, I'm saying trading either Frye or Lee for wingman who we can have on this team for the next 10 years. I have 0 confidence in Isiah Thomas making the correct trade in getting that wing. We also are stuck with Curry as the player to build around, even though he's not good enough to build around(thanks to Isiah,) so whatever the new GM does is going to have to either find someone to take Curry and get back prospects or either somehow work his way to getting a franchise player to build around in a multiple player trade. I'm not saying I don't like Curry and that he's not a good offensive player but I don't think he's good enough to build around because he only plays one side of the ball.

Right now there is no foundation but the team clearly needs to improve and the Knicks have a few players that are movable in Frye and Lee and they can be moved for a young wing who we might be able to build around. As I said, I have no confidence in Isiah making the right trade.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 01-04-2007 10:35 PM]
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1/5/2007  3:02 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:


Work out the wrinkles, so you are saying there is a foundation then??


No, I'm not saying theres a foundation. Theres a few players who are decent but there is yet to be a player to build around. When I say work out the wrinkles, I'm saying trading either Frye or Lee for wingman who we can have on this team for the next 10 years. I have 0 confidence in Isiah Thomas making the correct trade in getting that wing. We also are stuck with Curry as the player to build around, even though he's not good enough to build around(thanks to Isiah,) so whatever the new GM does is going to have to either find someone to take Curry and get back prospects or either somehow work his way to getting a franchise player to build around in a multiple player trade. I'm not saying I don't like Curry and that he's not a good offensive player but I don't think he's good enough to build around because he only plays one side of the ball.

Right now there is no foundation but the team clearly needs to improve and the Knicks have a few players that are movable in Frye and Lee and they can be moved for a young wing who we might be able to build around. As I said, I have no confidence in Isiah making the right trade.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 01-04-2007 10:35 PM]


Your last sentence says it all: We cannot trade Lee, and maybe not even Frye, because Isiah will screw up the deal and we will end up regretting it.

Your point is well taken that Lee is a very good player, but is not someone you build around. He's like Oakley was. Oakley was exaclty what we needed back in the day. But do you build around Oakley? Of course not. You add Oakley to a front line that has a franchise center like Ewing, and suddenly you become a very good team.

But while we clearly do not have our Ewing for Lee to complement, to allow Isiah to trade Lee would only be asking for trouble. This is why I would hold onto Lee, Curry and Frye, for the time being anyway.

This way, when our new GM arrives, he will have some pieces to work with.
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1/5/2007  12:10 PM
>>This way, when our new GM arrives, he will have some pieces to work with.

ErnieCat - pieces to work with are a good thing. Who did you have in mind to complete the process of building a championship-calibre roster?
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With this much love and concern for LEE, and with all this hate for Isiah

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