Posted by newyorknewyork:

That goes with my other thread. Its hard to judge because he instantly played like a top 10pg when he was playing with Curry, Lee, Frye, Crawford, Cato, Balkman. But now that Jefferies is back and playing big mins he went back to being very average.

So does his inconsistancy have to do with the lineup?? Or is he just being inconsistant?? Its hard to tell since Isiah changed up the rotation. If he stuck with what worked then we would know the real deal.

Jeez, top 10 PGs don't have their entire game thrown off by a little lineup change.

Story of Marbury's career - that one little tweak too many: be it injury, lineup change, coaching change, whatever, that derails a season.

Posted by Allanfan20:

To me, the lineup shouldn't really effect Marbury. Curry should be helping him more b/c he draws the doubles. Jefferies shouldn't be even getting the ball often. Crawford and Marbury will switch guard spots. And why Marbury defers to Crawford is beyond me, and that's another frustrating thing, and that's NOT being a top 10 PG.

When we had Houston or Sprewell, neither one defered to eachother. If they had a shot opportunity, they would take it. If one was so hot, let them have the ball, but you would never see either one of them leaning on the other.

Marbury, with his talent, should be playing like a top 10 guard every game no matter who he's with, unless he has Wade and Shaq, but he doesn't. Jefferies being in the lineup is a poor excuse.

And speaking of excuses, not to go off topic, but what was up with Kenny Smith making up the "They're heads are not in the game b/c it's New Years Eve" excuse. He in particular should know that it's not an excuse. Even Mike Breen seemed baffled by that.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by Allanfan20:

To me, the lineup shouldn't really effect Marbury. Curry should be helping him more b/c he draws the doubles. Jefferies shouldn't be even getting the ball often. Crawford and Marbury will switch guard spots. And why Marbury defers to Crawford is beyond me, and that's another frustrating thing, and that's NOT being a top 10 PG.

When we had Houston or Sprewell, neither one defered to eachother. If they had a shot opportunity, they would take it. If one was so hot, let them have the ball, but you would never see either one of them leaning on the other.

Marbury, with his talent, should be playing like a top 10 guard every game no matter who he's with, unless he has Wade and Shaq, but he doesn't. Jefferies being in the lineup is a poor excuse.

And speaking of excuses, not to go off topic, but what was up with Kenny Smith making up the "They're heads are not in the game b/c it's New Years Eve" excuse. He in particular should know that it's not an excuse. Even Mike Breen seemed baffled by that.

One thing about excuses. Now I didn't hear Kenny Smith talking about New Years Eve. So I don't know the tone he used. But not everything is meant to be an excuse like so many people like the make it out to be. Some things people are just saying to either be taken into consideration or just commenting on what could be happening weather its right or wrong. All Kenny Smith could have been doing is commenting on what he thought was happening. Not making the excuse that its alright for them to be playing that way since its new yrs.

And like me talking about the lineup that Marbury was successful with. You guys are taking it as me making an excuse to why Marbury is playing poorly right now. But basically all I was doing was observing and commenting on how he played great with a certain lineup and how I would like to see that lineup for a longer period of time and see if he can maintain that level of play. Thats basically it.

So does his inconsistancy have to do with the lineup?? Or is he just being inconsistant?? Its hard to tell since Isiah changed up the rotation. If he stuck with what worked then we would know the real deal.


Maybe people thought I was asking retorical(spell) quesitons, but I was really asking those questions.

Eddie Curry played better with David lee than Frye for an extented period of time. I don't remember people saying how Curry should play great reguardless of who is around him. Jamal Crawford seems to play better as a starter than off the bench. I don't remember to many people saying that Crawford should play great reguardless of comming off the bench or not. Instead I herd start Lee since it makes Curry better. And start Crawford since it makes Crawford better. Again just another observation.

Posted by anrst:

Gus Johnson thinks so