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Silverfuel
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12/30/2006  10:19 PM
AMAZING! Saddam execution video in realvideo: http://reddit.com/goto?id=whh2

Its a reddit link that leads to a video hosted on some other website.
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12/30/2006  11:50 PM
Thats how I feel, if we were going to do it at all, we should have gone in, got Saddam and bounced.
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12/31/2006  4:06 PM
Here's another clip. Graphic and disturbing. VIEW WITH CAUTION.

http://www.break.com/index/graphic_saddam_hussein_hanging_video.html
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12/31/2006  6:52 PM
Graphic and disturbing ??? I saw this on google the other day , you only get a poor picture of the actually event.

No caution needed it's blury once the floor drops
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1/1/2007  3:55 PM
Posted by Bobby:

no problem oohah, nevertheless, this is one historic event i thought would have many opinions


This was absolutely at the direction of Bush. The timetable of the trial and the major milestones were too coincidental with the US political timetable. And of course getting Saddam out of the way removes the possibility of any awkward questions being asked (and embarrassing answers being given) in trials for his other crimes - such as what involvement western governments had in his regime over the years.

How stupid do they think we are??

Saddam, is executate not for his crime, but to hide UNITED STATES part in the crime saddam had commited.


Why was Saddam not sent to the Hague war crimes tribunal?
Why is Bush and his cronies pushing for every war/human rights criminal to be dispatched to the Hague but not Saddam?

Why was he tried by a kangaroo court installed by an unelected foreign power?

The US/UK were scared he would disclose the dirty dealings they all took part in during the Iran/Iraq conflict and the chemicals which the west sold to saddam for use against his opponenets




[Edited by - playa2 on 01-01-2007 08:57]
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1/1/2007  5:12 PM
Posted by playa2:

Why was Saddam not sent to the Hague war crimes tribunal?
Thats very simple. His crimes against humanity towards Iraq's own people (Kurds, Shiah, Sunni) were a lot more heinous.
The US/UK were scared he would disclose the dirty dealings they all took part in during the Iran/Iraq conflict and the chemicals which the west sold to saddam for use against his opponenets
Nope. Thats not the reason. If they were afraid of him revealing something, they would have shot him at sight. That was the right way to go IMO. You got the reason all wrong playa. The put him on trial in Iraq to show the world that Iraq is capable of handling its own business. They failed in proving anything to the world but that was their intention. Seriously, its common sense. Think about it! If they were afraid of him revealing something we don't already no, they would have shot him in the spider hole they found him in.
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1/1/2007  9:31 PM
If Saddam was executed for killing his people who will do the same to George W. Bush for sending US troops to their deaths under false pretenses?

The excution of Saddam would be a real justice if it was done by his own nationals, not by a government that was created under the occupation of invading forces who, in addition to their hostility to the Arabs and support to Israel, have supported this dictator when he was serving their own interests by launching a war on Iran.

Silverfuel, most Americans are neither educated about Iraq nor want to be. They voted Bush in, they voted for the war. They cry for 3000 dead Americans but not for almost 700,000 dead Iraqis whom the Americans call terrorists in their own homeland. OIL and GREED: (American greed that is) and the fact that the Anglo-Saxon race have a 3000 year old history of betraying and divide and rule.


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1/1/2007  11:32 PM
Posted by playa2:

If Saddam was executed for killing his people who will do the same to George W. Bush for sending US troops to their deaths under false pretenses?

The excution of Saddam would be a real justice if it was done by his own nationals, not by a government that was created under the occupation of invading forces who, in addition to their hostility to the Arabs and support to Israel, have supported this dictator when he was serving their own interests by launching a war on Iran.

Silverfuel, most Americans are neither educated about Iraq nor want to be. They voted Bush in, they voted for the war. They cry for 3000 dead Americans but not for almost 700,000 dead Iraqis whom the Americans call terrorists in their own homeland. OIL and GREED: (American greed that is) and the fact that the Anglo-Saxon race have a 3000 year old history of betraying and divide and rule.
do me a favor and read or stfu and back off! Who are you trying to preach to? Are you under the impression that I don't know how things are? I know very well how corrupt this government is so don't insult my intelligence. Your conspiracy theory was bs and I called you on it so you change the topic instead of manning up? What a cop out!
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1/2/2007  9:46 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by playa2:

Why was Saddam not sent to the Hague war crimes tribunal?
Thats very simple. His crimes against humanity towards Iraq's own people (Kurds, Shiah, Sunni) were a lot more heinous.
The US/UK were scared he would disclose the dirty dealings they all took part in during the Iran/Iraq conflict and the chemicals which the west sold to saddam for use against his opponenets
Nope. Thats not the reason. If they were afraid of him revealing something, they would have shot him at sight. That was the right way to go IMO. You got the reason all wrong playa. The put him on trial in Iraq to show the world that Iraq is capable of handling its own business. They failed in proving anything to the world but that was their intention. Seriously, its common sense. Think about it! If they were afraid of him revealing something we don't already no, they would have shot him in the spider hole they found him in.

They didn't kill Saddam when they 1st found him because the orders were to keep him alive if possible.

But they killed both of his son's without thinking twice about it when they were found.

Keeping saddam alive was to show the Iraqi people that saddam wasn't so tuff and by parading him around handcuffed and shackled would give some of the iraqi people who saddam terroized some comfort.

It's all political.

You ever served in the military silver ?

They did the same to general Noriega from Panama.

He had so much dirt on Bush SR that they should have killed him, but they didn't.

What our goverment did was not allow him to testify in his OWN trial.

This is how our goverment does things, we silence the ones who has something to expose how corrupt we are.

Conspiracy is a common thing in our goverment silver, I am sorry if you haven't been personaly exposed to it like I have.

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1/2/2007  7:13 PM
Posted by playa2:

They didn't kill Saddam when they 1st found him because the orders were to keep him alive if possible.
This is obvious! The debate is why he was told to be kept alive
But they killed both of his son's without thinking twice about it when they were found.
Major difference was his sons did not surrender. They kept fighting back until they were cornered and killed. You don't remember the news much so google news it.
Keeping saddam alive was to show the Iraqi people that saddam wasn't so tuff and by parading him around handcuffed and shackled would give some of the iraqi people who saddam terroized some comfort.

It's all political.
This has been my point all along. You for some reason decided to bring up the Iran/Iraq war secrets etc. I like how you change your tune and expect the other person to forget about it. Why were you bringing up "dirty dealings they all took part in" etc BS when you knew this was a purely political popularity stunt? I see that you are agreeing with me that "Its all politicial" etc.
You ever served in the military silver ?
First you say its all political and now you ask me about the military? No I haven't served in the military but I doubt its required to read into this situation!
They did the same to general Noriega from Panama.
And almost every other place we don't know about. Why do you think I need to be educated on this?
He had so much dirt on Bush SR that they should have killed him, but they didn't.
Self contradiction. You say its political a few lines ago and now you are spewing the same BS. Totally unrelated and contradictory.
What our goverment did was not allow him to testify in his OWN trial.

This is how our goverment does things, we silence the ones who has something to expose how corrupt we are.
If you need Saddam to tell you how corrupt our government is, you are lost. I certainly don't need to hear anything he has to say. I don't trust this government one bit. And its pure speculation on your part. Its common sense that they would've shot him on the spot. He did interviews with Al Jazeera and never mentioned Iran.
Conspiracy is a common thing in our goverment silver, I am sorry if you haven't been personaly exposed to it like I have.
Please! You have no clue what I am talking about. I know what conspiracy means but you don't know what conspiracy theory means. Your theory is a conspiracy theory. I never argued there was no conspiracy to commit crimes. I am arguing that your theory is bs. Stop making it sound like you need to teach me something. I am arguing how he was killed not how corrupt our government is.
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1/2/2007  7:56 PM
we all know why he was killed , was that the your issue ?
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1/2/2007  8:16 PM
Posted by playa2:

we all know why he was killed , was that the your issue ?
dude, are you doing this on purpose? I call you out on your bs theory about Saddam's dirty secret of whatever and you are changing the subject. you go as far as to ask me if I have served in the military!
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