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12/24/2006  10:08 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:




Stop babbling and stay on point with the topic on hand we're talking about a streak specific to Curry.

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[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 10:08 PM]
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12/24/2006  10:11 PM
Yeah Curry sucks so bad. I donbt know why hes starting. Hes obviously terrible.
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12/24/2006  10:18 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.



You don't show up in any threads more prevelant than Curry threads, which is more damning of your blind lust/mancrush than someone else's hate. This is taking into consideration multiple boards BTW. Always got to throw that Hate word out there don't you. It's comical that you'll go as far as to sell out other players on his team to make Curry appear unjustifiably victimized/villanized. This stat is staggering no matter how much you play Kevin Costner to Curry's Whitney Houston. I bet you can't even name one shooter on the Bulls 03-04 team that Curry played with that's appreciably better than who he's currently playing with. I bet it had more to do with Skiles teaching him how to find his teammates better and his coaching scheme vs Zeke's force feeding Curry, very little accountability to do anything else scheme. Not until a couple games ago did Zeke get the balls enough to bench Curry.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 9:05 PM]

Thats a load of Bull. I stand up for Curry on 2 boards because people like you go from board to board hating on him. I was a Knicks fan before Curry and I will be after Curry. Ive been a Knicks fan for 33 years. Probably longer than you have been alive. In fact I was just getting a kick out of watching the Knicks from 1978 with all my favorites playing.

As far as the 03-04 Bulls go I can assure you I not only know a couple of the teams players. I know all their players but I'm not going to bash my own team by comparing them. All I did was mention our problems with outside shooting. That is no secret. I like every single player on the Knicks but one. Still you dont see me starting thread after thread on 2 boards spreading hate against him. I would put my basketball knowledge against yours any day. The simple fact that you have to lower your conversations to insults when people call you on your hating shows how hollow your debates are. I'm done discussing anything with you. You remind me of the guys in the KKK. No matter how illogical their racist hatred is they always think they are in the right and never will change their minds regardless of the logic presented.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/24/2006  10:29 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.



You don't show up in any threads more prevelant than Curry threads, which is more damning of your blind lust/mancrush than someone else's hate. This is taking into consideration multiple boards BTW. Always got to throw that Hate word out there don't you. It's comical that you'll go as far as to sell out other players on his team to make Curry appear unjustifiably victimized/villanized. This stat is staggering no matter how much you play Kevin Costner to Curry's Whitney Houston. I bet you can't even name one shooter on the Bulls 03-04 team that Curry played with that's appreciably better than who he's currently playing with. I bet it had more to do with Skiles teaching him how to find his teammates better and his coaching scheme vs Zeke's force feeding Curry, very little accountability to do anything else scheme. Not until a couple games ago did Zeke get the balls enough to bench Curry.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 9:05 PM]

Thats a load of Bull. I stand up for Curry on 2 boards because people like you go from board to board hating on him. I was a Knicks fan before Curry and I will be after Curry. Ive been a Knicks fan for 33 years. Probably longer than you have been alive. In fact I was just getting a kick out of watching the Knicks from 1978 with all my favorites playing.

As far as the 03-04 Bulls go I can assure you I not only know a couple of the teams players. I know all their players but I'm not going to bash my own team by comparing them. All I did was mention our problems with outside shooting. That is no secret. I like every single player on the Knicks but one. Still you dont see me starting thread after thread on 2 boards spreading hate against him. I would put my basketball knowledge against yours any day. The simple fact that you have to lower your conversations to insults when people call you on your hating shows how hollow your debates are. I'm done discussing anything with you. You remind me of the guys in the KKK. No matter how illogical their racist hatred is they always think they are in the right and never will change their minds regardless of the logic presented.



No need to puff your chest out like an ape in this thread. This wasn't a personal invitation for you to show up although welcome anytime. This thread was an observation of a disturbing stat. You used the word Hater first. Why can't it be I dislike Curry maybe as much or less as you dislike that 1 nameless Knick? I gots plenty basketball knowledge Son and I'll never challenge knowledge against knowledge because they don't hand out medals for that kind of stuff. Although I'll present stats, links, experience, quotes etc etc but for some it's not enough. Keep in mind the franchise gave up a lot for Curry.
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12/24/2006  10:52 PM
The Curry trade is what it was, no matter how you feel about Curry its impossible to not see something in a 23 year old kid whos averaging 18/7 a game. Can he get better? Of course, but I for one am excited in what Ive been seeing from him at times. He does need to improve his passing, along with his D and free throw shooting. But I hope that 3-4 years from now when he is in his prime he will have shown improvement. I dont think its lloking to be a bust of a trade at all.
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12/24/2006  11:08 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.
Those guys don't have the ball in their hands as much as Curry, which is why you can't look at assists without also looking at turnovers. Marbury missed 3 shots yesterday? Curry's problem isn't 3 shots Marbury missed in one game. It's very bad passing (and defense) over six YEARS.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-24-2006 11:20 PM]
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12/25/2006  2:55 AM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by Silverfuel:
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist.

Eddy is bad with his assists but lets keep our complaints in perspective. Every young center has this problem. And I think Eddy's assists numbers will go up when he starts to see the open man. Channing is starting to boost the assists already. Wait till Q joins in. In the meantime, check out these stats up until now in the season.

Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Amare Stoudamire: 14 assists, 60 to's

Curry: 21 assists, 100 turnovers


Amare is on pace for 21 assists to 90 turnovers

That's not much worse dude.
Of course, you have an agenda to look for the bad or blame isaih
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12/25/2006  6:16 AM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Ira:
Posted by Silverfuel:
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist.

Eddy is bad with his assists but lets keep our complaints in perspective. Every young center has this problem. And I think Eddy's assists numbers will go up when he starts to see the open man. Channing is starting to boost the assists already. Wait till Q joins in. In the meantime, check out these stats up until now in the season.

Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Amare Stoudamire: 14 assists, 60 to's

Curry: 21 assists, 100 turnovers


Amare is on pace for 21 assists to 90 turnovers

That's not much worse dude.
Of course, you have an agenda to look for the bad or blame isaih

Sorry to spoil you're stereotype. I'm one of the few here who see both good and bad with Isaiah and the team he has. I'm not for keeping or replacing him. I'm concerned that if we do replace him, Dolan will pick someone worse.

But getting back to Curry, he is a bad passer. Maybe Amare is, too. Does that make them bad players. No. But that is a part of their game that is a problem. It's true that we have bad outside shooting, and that adds to the problem.

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12/25/2006  10:09 AM
At least 70% of Currys turnovers dont even come off his own passes. They come on offensive fouls, 3 second violations when he doesnt get the ball in time, or bad passes that he just manages to get a hand on.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/25/2006  7:30 PM
how many centers in the league average more turnovers than assists blocks and steals combined for 5 years running?
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12/25/2006  8:02 PM
here are eddy's rates per 40 minutes over the past 3 seasons:


pts reb ast blks
04/05: 22.2 7.4 0.8 1.2 (16.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 0.6 asts, 0.9 blks in 29 mins)
05/06: 20.9 9.2 0.5 1.2 (13.6 pts, 6.0 rebs, 0.3 asts, 0.8 blks in 26 mins)
06/07: 21.5 8.6 0.8 0.6 (17.8 pts, 7.1 rebs, 0.7 asts, 0.5 blks in 33 mins)
past 17 games: 24.7 8.9 1.0 0.7 (21.6 pts, 7.8 rebs, 0.9 asts, 0.7 blks in 35 mins)
past 5 games: 19.8 6.6 0.6 0.0 (15.6 pts, 5.2 rebs, 0.5 asts, 0.0 blks in 31.5 mins)
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12/25/2006  8:20 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

here are eddy's rates per 40 minutes over the past 3 seasons:


pts reb ast blks
04/05: 22.2 7.4 0.8 1.2 (16.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 0.6 asts, 0.9 blks in 29 mins)
05/06: 20.9 9.2 0.5 1.2 (13.6 pts, 6.0 rebs, 0.3 asts, 0.8 blks in 26 mins)
06/07: 21.5 8.6 0.8 0.6 (17.8 pts, 7.1 rebs, 0.7 asts, 0.5 blks in 33 mins)
past 17 games: 24.7 8.9 1.0 0.7 (21.6 pts, 7.8 rebs, 0.9 asts, 0.7 blks in 35 mins)
past 5 games: 19.8 6.6 0.6 0.0 (15.6 pts, 5.2 rebs, 0.5 asts, 0.0 blks in 31.5 mins)

Very interesting considering his FGA have increased +4FGA/gm vs last season and his minutes have increased +5-10 vs the previous 3. So he scores more due to more touches and plays more minutes but none of his other numbers increase noticeably and some even decrease.
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12/26/2006  1:43 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

here are eddy's rates per 40 minutes over the past 3 seasons:


pts reb ast blks
04/05: 22.2 7.4 0.8 1.2 (16.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 0.6 asts, 0.9 blks in 29 mins)
05/06: 20.9 9.2 0.5 1.2 (13.6 pts, 6.0 rebs, 0.3 asts, 0.8 blks in 26 mins)
06/07: 21.5 8.6 0.8 0.6 (17.8 pts, 7.1 rebs, 0.7 asts, 0.5 blks in 33 mins)
past 17 games: 24.7 8.9 1.0 0.7 (21.6 pts, 7.8 rebs, 0.9 asts, 0.7 blks in 35 mins)
past 5 games: 19.8 6.6 0.6 0.0 (15.6 pts, 5.2 rebs, 0.5 asts, 0.0 blks in 31.5 mins)

This gives a lot of credibility to Isles' claim that Eddy hasn't improved but has simply gotten more minutes.
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12/26/2006  1:45 PM
here are some more stats (not per 40):

04/05 bulls:
eddy accounted for 12% of team rebounding (5.4 of 43.8)
chandler accounted for 22% (9.7 of 43.8 led team)

eddy accounted for 17% of team scoring (16.1 of 94.5 led team)
eddy accounted for 14% of fg's attempted (11.6 of 80.4 3rd on team)

05/06 knicks:
eddy accounted for 14% of team rebounding (6.0 of 41.4 led team)

eddy accounted for 14% of team scoring (13.6 of 95.6)
marbury accounted for 17% of team scoring (16.3 of 95.6 led team)
eddy accounted for 11% of fg's attempted (8.3 of 75.7 5th on team)

06/07 knicks:
eddy accounts for 16% of team rebounding (7.1 of 44.9)
lee accounts for 23% of team rebounding (10.3 of 44.9 leads team)

eddy accounts for 18% of team scoring (17.8 of 98.4 leads team)
eddy accounts for 15% of fg's attempted (12.4 of 80.2 2nd on team)

[Edited by - djsunyc on 12-26-2006 1:47 PM]
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12/26/2006  1:54 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:

here are eddy's rates per 40 minutes over the past 3 seasons:


pts reb ast blks
04/05: 22.2 7.4 0.8 1.2 (16.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 0.6 asts, 0.9 blks in 29 mins)
05/06: 20.9 9.2 0.5 1.2 (13.6 pts, 6.0 rebs, 0.3 asts, 0.8 blks in 26 mins)
06/07: 21.5 8.6 0.8 0.6 (17.8 pts, 7.1 rebs, 0.7 asts, 0.5 blks in 33 mins)
past 17 games: 24.7 8.9 1.0 0.7 (21.6 pts, 7.8 rebs, 0.9 asts, 0.7 blks in 35 mins)
past 5 games: 19.8 6.6 0.6 0.0 (15.6 pts, 5.2 rebs, 0.5 asts, 0.0 blks in 31.5 mins)

This gives a lot of credibility to Isles' claim that Eddy hasn't improved but has simply gotten more minutes.


I've echoed the same the stats back it up all the way.
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12/26/2006  8:05 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:

here are eddy's rates per 40 minutes over the past 3 seasons:


pts reb ast blks
04/05: 22.2 7.4 0.8 1.2 (16.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 0.6 asts, 0.9 blks in 29 mins)
05/06: 20.9 9.2 0.5 1.2 (13.6 pts, 6.0 rebs, 0.3 asts, 0.8 blks in 26 mins)
06/07: 21.5 8.6 0.8 0.6 (17.8 pts, 7.1 rebs, 0.7 asts, 0.5 blks in 33 mins)
past 17 games: 24.7 8.9 1.0 0.7 (21.6 pts, 7.8 rebs, 0.9 asts, 0.7 blks in 35 mins)
past 5 games: 19.8 6.6 0.6 0.0 (15.6 pts, 5.2 rebs, 0.5 asts, 0.0 blks in 31.5 mins)

This gives a lot of credibility to Isles' claim that Eddy hasn't improved but has simply gotten more minutes.


I've echoed the same the stats back it up all the way.
The stats really surprise me. Before I read DJ's post, I would have thought that at least his scoring had improved even if nothing else had improved. DJ's post is so revealing and striking that it deserves a thread of its own

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12/26/2006  9:18 PM
He is giving us 18ppg on 12 freakin shots, lol. Last year he gave us 13 ppg on 8 freaking shots. How is he supposed to score 5ppg more without taking more shots? Is he suppossed to average 18ppg on 8 shots? Geez sorry you haters are a bunch of tools.
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12/26/2006  9:57 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.



You don't show up in any threads more prevelant than Curry threads, which is more damning of your blind lust/mancrush than someone else's hate. This is taking into consideration multiple boards BTW. Always got to throw that Hate word out there don't you. It's comical that you'll go as far as to sell out other players on his team to make Curry appear unjustifiably victimized/villanized. This stat is staggering no matter how much you play Kevin Costner to Curry's Whitney Houston. I bet you can't even name one shooter on the Bulls 03-04 team that Curry played with that's appreciably better than who he's currently playing with. I bet it had more to do with Skiles teaching him how to find his teammates better and his coaching scheme vs Zeke's force feeding Curry, very little accountability to do anything else scheme. Not until a couple games ago did Zeke get the balls enough to bench Curry.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 9:05 PM]


Can't believe you of all people are calling someone out for appearing in certain threads. You have 2 Anti-Curry threads not to mention the multiple Marbury bashing threads you either start or just jump into to dowse gasoline on flames.

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12/26/2006  11:10 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

He is giving us 18ppg on 12 freakin shots, lol. Last year he gave us 13 ppg on 8 freaking shots. How is he supposed to score 5ppg more without taking more shots? Is he suppossed to average 18ppg on 8 shots? Geez sorry you haters are a bunch of tools.

No one's criticizing him for his FG%. It's all other aspects of his game that are disasterous.
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12/26/2006  11:12 PM
Yahoo continues to have its weekly column about Curry.
Eddy Curry Line Update
The Eddy Curry Line was established to put a spotlight on how truly anemic Curry's overall fantasy line is. The standard: a player must average more turnovers than assists, steals, and blocks combined – in order to qualify, a player must have appeared in at least half of his team's games and averaged at least 20 minutes of playing time.

Curry was back to his Curry-like ways this past week, totaling 16 turnovers and four positive stats (two assists and two steals) in four games. On the season, Curry now has 47 positive stats (20 assists, 12 steals, and 15 blocks) against 95 turnovers, a 0.49:1 ratio.

Mark Blount had a good week by his previous Curry Line standards. In two games last week, Blount had three turnovers and five positive stats (two assists and three steals). On the season, Blount has 45 positive stats (11 assists, 13 steals, and 21 blocks) against 51 turnovers, a 0.88:1 ratio.

Al Harrington broke even in Curry Line stats for the week. In three games, Harrington totaled six turnovers and six positive stats (four assists, one steal, and one block). For the season, Harrington has 55 positive stats (38 assists, 11 steals, and six blocks) against 59 turnovers, a 0.93:1 ratio.

Just six qualifying players remain under the Curry Line at this point in the season - the remaining three are Erick Dampier (0.94:1), Zach Randolph (0.94:1), and Desmond Mason (0.95:1).

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