Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

You are making a either or choice that has no right answer. You cant have a pg that can only play offense and no defense nor vice versa. They have to be at a minimum servicable at best. You also over rated Charlie Wards defense and under rated Nashs defense. Thats why the majority of people are voting equally important. They may not be equally important for any position but that doesnt mean they both are not needed. A guy who scores 20 and lets up 40 regardless of position is useless. A guy who only lets up 10 but only scores 1 is also useless.

I never said that. I asked which end you'd sacrifice a little. In which end would you be okay if the player was only about average so long as he excelled at the other end. It's not as complicated as you and trueblue are making it. If you don't like the thread, you don't need to post in it and you can just let the rest of us post in it.

Posted by Bonn1997:

. What mmatters is that your PG can run the offense, determine who needs to get the ball and wehre and when. And as someone else said control the tempo.

In other words, what matters most for a PG is on the offensive end

Control the tempo refers to offense and defense.

i need my PG not to get into ridiculous insult trading sessions with his head coach in the media (same goes for the head coach)... i need my PG to be a leader for his team & help his teammates to become better basketball players by playing good, fundamental team oriented style basketball... i need my PG to not be a spoiled primadonna who never takes accountability for his own failures on the basketball court... i need my PG not to point fingers & separate himself from his teammates... i need my PG to play perimeter defense EVERY night & not just when he feels like it... i need my PG not to be afraid to take the big shot in crunchtime.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-22-2006 11:46 AM]

It also depends on the make-up of your team. If you have Michael Jordan or Scottie Pippen to control the offense you don't need your PG to do more than bring the ball up and hit the open jumper. If you have a lock down defender at the 2, you don't need one at the point. If you have a defender at the 2 you might need some offense out of the point depending on the rest of the roster.

If you are built to score from the inside out, he needs a jumper and to be able to know when the big man gets the ball. IF it's from the outside in you may need him to be a penetrator and a creator. Jumpshooting squad=creator. Team of guys that can get their own shots, you may need a distributor that doesn't need the ball.

There are so many variables. I think common themes are leadership, control tempo(means setting the tone on offense and defense)know who needs the ball and when and be the most reliable person on the floor.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Bonn1997:

. What mmatters is that your PG can run the offense, determine who needs to get the ball and wehre and when. And as someone else said control the tempo.

In other words, what matters most for a PG is on the offensive end

Control the tempo refers to offense and defense.

Fair enough. So most of the things you listed refer to offense and one thing refers to defense.

Once again Bonn you are trying to create answers. It depends on your team. Do I have to say it again or can you read my opinion. One team may need a PG to do all things on offense. One may need the PG to do all things on defense. But common themes are(and these are simply stereotypes for the position):

leadership: Neither offense or defense.
control tempo:offense and defense
Who needs the ball: Offense
Most reliable person on the floor: an intangible
IF it gets down to personal preference: yes I would like my PG to be all of the above AND be my best perimeter defender.

but in the end it comes down to team makeup. I'm not sure how to make it more clear. If you have a Kobe or a Michael or a Wade taht can run the offense you can have a PG that is not involved in the offense at all, but needs to take some pressure off the scorer on the defensive end. If you have a team of defenders and thugs you may need an Isiah or a Dumars to run the offense and put up points.

Not sure how more clear I can make it? It depends on your team. Maybe I'll say it again. It depends on your team. I'll try a third time, It depends on your team. Hopefully it's clear now. But if you still think I'm listing only offense I will say it a fourth time. It depends on your team. Common themes are just stereotypes of the position but in the end it depends on your team. You want your center to block shots, rebound, score and be an inside presence. But in the end just like the PG, it depends on your team. Send me a private message if what I'm saying is not clear and I will respond by saying that it depends on your team. So don't bother sending me a private message becasue the it depends on your team answer will not change.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 12-22-2006 1:18 PM]

To me it doesn't depend on the team because I would never take a good defensive poor offensive gaurd over the reverse. YOu need a PG who can run the offense no matter what the makeup of the team is. (The only exception is you may have an SG who's really the PG like Dwayne Wade.)

^Ditto