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When can we pleeeease get a shotblocker?
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Solace
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12/20/2006  2:51 AM
Posted by TMS:

ok Isiah.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. pwned.
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12/20/2006  3:00 AM
I'm a huge fan of trading a combo of Frye/Nate or Frye/Crawford for a shotblocker, and I'd absolutely LOVE Josh Smith (though where are the minutes at 3 gonna go w/ Smith, Balkmania, and JJ?)

I'd highly recommend everyone tuning into the BC/Kansas game on 12/23. Sean Williams at BC is the best shotblocker in the country, and I'd say the world (but I'm a little biased, I go to BC).

This guy is an absoulte monster, averaging 6 blocks a game, basically alters every shot around the rim. He's only a JR but this a guy that would come out with a guarantee for a pick in the 20s. He would change the entire defense.

Any other ideas for Frye/Craw or Frye/Nate for a shotblocker?
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12/20/2006  4:58 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

I'm a huge fan of trading a combo of Frye/Nate or Frye/Crawford for a shotblocker, and I'd absolutely LOVE Josh Smith (though where are the minutes at 3 gonna go w/ Smith, Balkmania, and JJ?)

I'd highly recommend everyone tuning into the BC/Kansas game on 12/23. Sean Williams at BC is the best shotblocker in the country, and I'd say the world (but I'm a little biased, I go to BC).

This guy is an absoulte monster, averaging 6 blocks a game, basically alters every shot around the rim. He's only a JR but this a guy that would come out with a guarantee for a pick in the 20s. He would change the entire defense.

Any other ideas for Frye/Craw or Frye/Nate for a shotblocker?

I knew that was coming:) What scares me about Williams[while he DOES have top 5 pick type talent]-- he has some chris washburn/eddie griffin type charachteristics. he's at a good school with a good coach who can hopefully get into his head for the long-term. I like Dudley to--he's just one heckuva basketball player and a big time winner. Since you are in Mass--do you ever get to see them play? Stephane Lasme is going to get drafted somewhere by the sixers if LB is calling the shots.
I've seen Thabeet play 9 times now and he's just very raw. He would probably be a high pick if he came out, but I would not suggest it. He needs two years to work on his body and skills. I thought that he would be much better from watching him in those i-8 scrimmages with guys like wayne ellington[who we could use] earl clark gerald hendersen from duke i mean big time talent level and he was awesome--yet seems to have regressed quite a bit at school so far. Hes had trouble finishing dunks[and thats not the best problem at 7-3] his offensive arsenal is very limited but just being 7-3 on the D is a helper. He doesnt have that long of arms for a 7-3 guy. He just needs a LOT of refinement and I hope that no one pushes him towards the NBA this year. I understand why they have him pegged high on mock drafts, because he's an athletic 7-3:) but I wouldnt pick him that high, no way--there is much better NOW talent than him.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 12-20-2006 05:00 AM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 12-20-2006 05:12 AM]
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12/24/2006  12:36 AM
Anybody see the game today? Big Time had 19/15/7 against a VERY GOOD Kansas team chock full of McDonalds A-A.

I think he could be gone after this year, once again, this guy would TURN OUR D around like that. Every shot that gets in the lane is contested by this guy.
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12/24/2006  12:40 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

Anybody see the game today? Big Time had 19/15/7 against a VERY GOOD Kansas team chock full of McDonalds A-A.

I think he could be gone after this year, once again, this guy would TURN OUR D around like that. Every shot that gets in the lane is contested by this guy.

I'm assuming you're talking about Shawn Williams?
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12/24/2006  12:45 AM
Justin WIlliams is still available, doods over at the other board are talking him up:

12 pts, 11.8 rebs, 3.25 blks, 52% FG's
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/justin_williams/index.html?nav=page

And as an aside, Frank Williams is killin' 'em in D-league too.

16.2 pts, 4.9 ast, 3.2 reb, 1.7 stls while playing lockdown D. He shut down Maurice Ager a while ago-or so they said on the other board.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/frank_williams/index.html

If we could open up 2 spots, I'd love to pop both these guys free.


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12/24/2006  12:52 AM
I was talking about Sean Williams AKA Big Time. Averaging over 7 blocks per game.
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12/24/2006  6:27 PM
This sounds like a really deep big man draft this year, but people saw this coming for a few years now.

I'm still hoping Oden will stay in school after this year though so maybe we'll have a .00000001% chance of getting him, instead of 0%.

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12/29/2006  12:15 AM
I know I keep harping this guy, but Sean Williams had 13 blocks tonight and a triple double (19 points, 13 blocks, 10 boards). Absolute beast.
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12/29/2006  8:44 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

I know I keep harping this guy, but Sean Williams had 13 blocks tonight and a triple double (19 points, 13 blocks, 10 boards). Absolute beast.
how tall is he though?!
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12/29/2006  10:26 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

I know I keep harping this guy, but Sean Williams had 13 blocks tonight and a triple double (19 points, 13 blocks, 10 boards). Absolute beast.

is this the guy you're talking about?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22199

6'10" 235 lbs... averaging 12 / 7 / 6... sounds good to me BigSm00th.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-29-2006 10:30 AM]
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12/29/2006  12:32 PM
How about Steve Francis for Raef LaFrenz

Both useless players for there respective teams. Both have same amount of years left on their contracts. Both have injury issues. Both teams could use help at those respective positions.

Knicks should make this trade especially when Collins & Nate come back.
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12/29/2006  12:59 PM
Francis for LaFrentz is interesting... i don't know if Ainge would do it only because he already has a plethora of G's on this team already, plus the fact that he & Isiah aren't exactly the best of buddies... on paper it makes sense, but i don't think it happens.
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12/29/2006  1:12 PM
I've heard Ainge make a bunch of comments about the Knicks guards. I don't think they are his type of players.
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12/29/2006  1:22 PM
Posted by TMS:

Francis for LaFrentz is interesting... i don't know if Ainge would do it only because he already has a plethora of G's on this team already, plus the fact that he & Isiah aren't exactly the best of buddies... on paper it makes sense, but i don't think it happens.

OH no, I do think he does it. LA's Contract is the worst in the league by farrrrrrrr...........
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12/29/2006  1:59 PM
nevermind, forgot he was on the Blazers now. my bad.

his contract runs the same length as Francis' like another poster said, but the value doesn't match dollar wise... the Blazers would look to add Darius Miles to the package no doubt, & i want ZERO part of him in any trade.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-29-2006 2:01 PM]
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1/3/2007  1:19 PM
Shotblocking is his BC calling card

BC star trying to clean up his reputation
By Mike Muldoon
THE EAGLE-TRIBUNE (NORTH ANDOVER, Mass.)

CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. — At a proper Catholic school such as Duquesne University, they don't expect such language out of their students. But you could hardly blame Scott Grote.

"Thirteen! Holy --! I've never seen anything like it," said the Duquesne guard, shaking his head in awe.

Boston College junior Sean Williams, a 6-10 junior who soars like his school's mascot, the eagle, and has looooong arms that would make a tailor contemplate early retirement, swatted 13 shots last Tuesday in BC's overtime loss to the Atlantic-10 school.

That was one off the NCAA Division 1 record shared by 7-1 future Hall of Famer David Robinson, 7-6 Shawn Bradley, 6-10 Roy Rogers and 7-1 Loren Woods, all of whom went on to have successful NBA careers.

"Oh, man, we were worried about him," said Duquesne guard Aaron Jackson.

That's because he pounced to block two 3-point shots, which is almost unheard of, and on another occasion after he turned the ball over, Williams raced the length of the court to block the fastbreak layup. Duquesne retrieved the ball but Williams leapt a good two feet above the rim to snuff out what seemed to be another certain hoop.

After two years as a shotblocker playing limited minutes off the bench, Williams has developed into a budding sensation.

"I've had to work hard for it, but I was definitely blessed with some God-given ability," said Williams in his deep voice with the Texas twang.

The blocked shot is his calling card, but he doesn't take extra pride in them.

"I don't get a kick out of it at all," said America's leading shotblocker. "I just don't want the other team to score."

Allen annihilation

Kansas won the game, but everybody was buzzing about the play of Williams after BC's visit to famed Allen Fieldhouse on Dec. 23.

The Jayhawks boast two big men in Julian Wright and Darrell Arthur who are considered sure-fire future NBA lottery picks. Even that talented twosome couldn't keep up with Williams, who erupted for 19 points and 15 rebounds, both career highs, to go with seven blocks and three steals.

Kansas coach Bill Self said, "There's been a lot of great athletes play in this building, but I don't know if we've played against many guys that can block or alter shots like him."

Jayhawks guard Russell Robinson raved, "He's the best shotblocker I've ever seen. He comes from nowhere and gets you."


Eagles senior Sean Marshall likens him defensively to Emeka Okafor, the former national player of the year, although he gives the ex-UConn great the slight nod for being a little more savvy.

Offense coming along

Once regarded as a defensive specialist, Williams' offense is coming along like gangbusters.

He had the 19 points against Kansas, followed that up with the tripe double (19 points, 10 rebounds, 13 blocks) vs. Duquesne and notched 16 points and nine rebounds Sunday against Northeastern.

No longer an offensive liability, Williams, who averaged 3.1 points and 3.4 rebounds off the bench last winter, is averaging 13.7 points and 7.3 rebounds to go with his 6.0 blocks a game this season.

Marshall attributes it to hard work.

"This summer me and him were in the gym every day," he explained. "You could see him slowly progressing. Now he carries it into games."

In addition to his trademark monster dunks, Williams has added a jump hook and a surprisingly soft mid-range jump shot to his offensive repertoire.

"His offensive game is really, really coming along," said Northeastern's first-year coach Bill Coen who, as an assistant at BC, helped recruit Williams. "He's a terrific developing basketball player. He's got tremendous upside and will only get better and better."

A sleeper out of Mansfield, Texas, a city of 49,000 located 25 miles outside of Dallas, Williams was only a consensus top-150 player out of Mansfield High. Even in Texas, he was relatively unknown because he was a late bloomer and had to sit out his junior year when he transferred high schools.

Things have changed quickly, though, for Mansfield's second most famous citizen (Grammy winner Kelly Clarkson also lives there). ESPN.com has him slated to go 16th in its 2007 mock NBA Draft.

Character questions

One thing that could jeopardize a multi-million dollar career is his checkered history off the court. His two-game suspension to begin this season was the fourth of his career at BC. At the end of his freshman year, Williams was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana and alcohol. His future at the school was in question, but he did well in summer school in Texas, followed his drug counseling program and was allowed to return for the second semester last year.

His basketball growth certainly was stunted. Eagles coach Al Skinner refused to put him in the starting lineup despite his obvious gifts.

Those who know him attribute his problems to youth (he didn't turn 18 until September of his freshman year) and to immaturity.

"I'm learning to make better choices," said Williams, who typically prefers to stay out of the media spotlight.

After his freshman year, he was an inpatient at John Lucas' drug rehabilitation program in Houston. Lucas, a former NBA player and coach who has overcome drug problems, has helped several NBA players with addiction problems including Eddie Griffin and ex-Celtic Vin Baker.

"I'm thankful for it and appreciate the opportunity," he said of working with Lucas. "That's my man. I talk to him once a week."

He claims the NBA is the furthest thing from his mind.

"I'm not worried about that at all," insisted Williams. "I'm just at BC trying to get my education."

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 01-03-2007 1:20 PM]
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1/3/2007  5:11 PM
Sounds like a good player.
That was one off the NCAA Division 1 record shared by 7-1 future Hall of Famer David Robinson, 7-6 Shawn Bradley, 6-10 Roy Rogers and 7-1 Loren Woods, all of whom went on to have successful NBA careers.

Wow, if doesn't state how over shotblocking is, then I don't what will. If this guy can control the paint complete, he sounds like good defensive player. If he is terrible defensive player who can block shots like most of the NBA then that's not good............ simple.
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When can we pleeeease get a shotblocker?

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