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Andrew
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Lets ask an honest question here: Who thought the Nuggets were running up the score? Mind you, this is different than keeping your starters in. Thinking back to the game I didn't think the score was being run up.
Yes, they were running up the score
No, the starters were just in
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SugarRayRichardson
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12/17/2006  11:26 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:

if isiah shows anger towards melo, you'd bash him. he shows a cal. head, yoy bash him.

it is what it is.

he did say he said to him that they were up 20 with less than two minutes and that he and camby shouldn't have been in the game.

motives scmotives, he did what he was supposed to do...remain calm.

you'd rather he kling to a ayers leg?

I dont usually bash Isiah so I dont know why you would say that. As a person that used to ref I can tell you that coachs should not be speaking at all to opposing teams players in that kind of situation calm or not. All coachs should be controlling their own team not engaging players on the other team.
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12/17/2006  11:28 AM
if we have players in there (frye, jj) its because they need time to get back in shape. also, having your better players in when down 20 w/ 2mins is VERY different from having them in 20 up.
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12/17/2006  11:49 AM
They clearly were, but you can offer a physical response a lot more subtly than Collins did. Just bump someone with your chest as they drive by you.
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12/17/2006  11:49 AM
Posted by franco12:

if we have players in there (frye, jj) its because they need time to get back in shape. also, having your better players in when down 20 w/ 2mins is VERY different from having them in 20 up.

So the other coach is supposed to put in his scrubs while the other team is OK to leave in it's starters? And if the other team somehow comes back against the scubs and wins? Explain to me what the coach will say in that situation, because yours makes no sense.
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12/17/2006  11:52 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by islesfan:

What are they supposed to do?
what 99% of the NBA does in a blowout. bench their starters.

Not making excuses, just telling you how it is.

True that, Silver.

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12/17/2006  11:56 AM
What's being lost here is that Isiah Thomas deliberately told his team to foul someone and foul them hard, normally I wouldn't care but when you've done as bad of a job as Isiah has, it's not a good move, earn some respect around the league and then you can be the Bad Boys, not when your 9-17. The fact that the Knicks were even down by 20 at home is despicable, mix in the fact that they are 9-17 as well. It's just the same old crap with Isiah, blame the fans, blame the salary-cap, blame the head-coaches, blame whoever but never once blame HIMSELF. When the hell is this guy going to get his ass canned! This team is a laughingstock and he is the head jester, I'm just friggen sick of it.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-17-2006 11:57 AM]
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12/17/2006  12:00 PM
do we know what he actually told them.

If he said "I better not see another windmill dunk" that's one thing, if he said "go out there and hurt somebody" that's something else.

It depends on how you view Isiah and what you want the outcome to be if people believe you.

It wasn't even that hard. It was a flagrant 2.

rewatch it and it get's less and less a "try to kill the guy" foul and the focus starts to turn to melo's sucker punch and nate's wrestling match.

We took our starters out against atlanta (remember jerome) it's what teams are supposed to do...if you leave your starters in, it's blasphemy in the nba.

They should have fired the coach of indiana when artest went into the stands.

that's the logic we are using.
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12/17/2006  12:02 PM
Totally OT, but can someone look at Andrew's poll question at the start of this thread and tell me what member # they see under his name?

Thanks.
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12/17/2006  12:03 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Totally OT, but can someone look at Andrew's poll question at the start of this thread and tell me what member # they see under his name?

Thanks.

842.... ?
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12/17/2006  12:03 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by franco12:

if we have players in there (frye, jj) its because they need time to get back in shape. also, having your better players in when down 20 w/ 2mins is VERY different from having them in 20 up.

So the other coach is supposed to put in his scrubs while the other team is OK to leave in it's starters? And if the other team somehow comes back against the scubs and wins? Explain to me what the coach will say in that situation, because yours makes no sense.

Down by 20 with 2 minutes left? Come on dude, what kind of come back are you talking about? JJ and Frye just came back from injury. They needed the time on the court. Lee and Nate are young players that need to taste what a blow feels like and fight back. Karl was up to something no matter how you spin it.

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12/17/2006  12:05 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Did we have our garbage players in?

Is it the Knicks fault that our bench players are better than other teams bench players?
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12/17/2006  12:07 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BasketballJones:

Totally OT, but can someone look at Andrew's poll question at the start of this thread and tell me what member # they see under his name?

Thanks.

842.... ?

842 is your member number.

It's just a little bug in the software. The poll question shows the reader's member number instead of the poster's number. (Andrew's member number is 2)
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12/17/2006  12:08 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BasketballJones:

Totally OT, but can someone look at Andrew's poll question at the start of this thread and tell me what member # they see under his name?

Thanks.

842.... ?

842 is your member number.

It's just a little bug in the software. The poll question shows the reader's member number instead of the poster's number. (Andrew's member number is 2)

Nice find. I didn't pick up on that. That's odd, lol.
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12/17/2006  12:31 PM
Posted by kevlofton:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by franco12:

if we have players in there (frye, jj) its because they need time to get back in shape. also, having your better players in when down 20 w/ 2mins is VERY different from having them in 20 up.

So the other coach is supposed to put in his scrubs while the other team is OK to leave in it's starters? And if the other team somehow comes back against the scubs and wins? Explain to me what the coach will say in that situation, because yours makes no sense.

Down by 20 with 2 minutes left? Come on dude, what kind of come back are you talking about? JJ and Frye just came back from injury. They needed the time on the court. Lee and Nate are young players that need to taste what a blow feels like and fight back. Karl was up to something no matter how you spin it.

How long did it take the Knicks to come back from down 26 to 10? 3 minutes, if that? Isiah still had the lineup in that made that run. I agree, that under just about any other team, you can do that. The Knicks however have proved that-especially the second unit-can put up points REAL quick. Karl had a timeout at 2 minutes left in the game up 17-at which point Isiah put Collins in for Steph. It is not that out of the ordinary, especially against this team, to have to worry about them scoring points.
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12/17/2006  1:00 PM
You fired dave checketts, fired marv albert, hired assiah, fired 2 hall of fame coaches, no longer selling out consistently, don't have a premier franchise star, teams coming in here laughing at the knicks, have not hit 500 ball in 5 yrs, people sleeping during the games, still charging fans high priced tickets and horrible products on the floor..

IT"S BECOME A JOKE with this organizationit it's so sad.





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12/17/2006  1:07 PM
I think Karl being Brown's friend was rubbing it in to IT. No NBA team up more than 10 points with less than a minute to play have their starters in the game, let alone running the break. The guy should have pulled the ball back and milked the clock. I am glad some players stood up for themselves!

That being said, the Knicks suck.

When are they going to get better?
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12/17/2006  1:39 PM
George Karl is an idiot. He had no business keeping his starters in the game being up by 19 with 1:26 left in the game. He tried to show up the Knicks big time.
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12/17/2006  1:41 PM
oh, Karl was CLEARLY trying to run up the score to get Isiah back for firing Larry Legend. it doesn't excuse Isiah's child-ish, unprofessional behavior or the behavior of any of his players though.
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12/17/2006  7:07 PM
What's the definition of "running up the score"? If it means trying to beat your opponent by as many points as possible when the W/L outcome is already known or trying to embarrass your opponent, then obviously they were.
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12/17/2006  7:09 PM
For those who think that the Nuggets were running up the score, offer proof.
That's not the same standard you held yourself to with the claim that Isiah ordered the flagrant 2 foul.
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