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12/17/2006  11:53 AM
he didn't intend to hurt the player, take another look at it.
JR was barely hurt, these are nba players and they are in tip top shape.

the wade foul on the youtube posted by another poster in one of the other fight threads shows a foul that was much much harder and could have caused much more damage.

I know you guys hate the knicks and are looking for any reason possible to get rid of the people and players you hate.

But this was just basketball. Melo took a sucker punch and JR broke lose of the david lee's grip to tackle nate.

Talk is talk, no matter what nate said or posed, you are wrong if you tackle the player.

I mean, am I watching a different game/fight than everyone else?

Riley still employs hard fouls. So does van gundy.

this is the same era. trust me.
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12/17/2006  12:02 PM
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12/17/2006  12:03 PM
Here, let's put that in-line

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12/17/2006  12:05 PM
Thanks.
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12/17/2006  12:12 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

I would love to see Isiah get suspended for his role in the brawl. It's not a good thing when your coach is a thug wannabe.
Please! If Van Gundy, Riley or Brown sanctioned the foul, you would love it! At least be consistent.

Again, different eras. The NBA is trying to clean up the league. Furthermore, there's a difference between an intentional foul, a flagrant foul, and a foul intended to injure another player. Collins foul was the third, and right now, evidence seems to support that it was Isiah who told him to do that. No, not cool. I think there is some precidence for a coach getting suspended. If I'm not mistaken, manager(s) have been ejected and/or suspended from games for ordering multiple beanballs on players, which incited a brawl.

Yes, it's consistent. Isiah is an ass and he's doing more harm than good to this basketball team. In the end, he started it. He's the snake. If Van Gundy, Riley, etc... did such in today's era, they would deserve a suspension also.

How was Collins' foul intended to hurt J.R. Smith. It was a hard foul but it is not like he flipped the guy in the air or something. It was a hard foul intended to send a message. I see nothing wrong with the foul. Was it the wisest course of action? Probably not, but IT is from the bad boys era and he is not going to want his players accepting guys doing reverse dunks and laughing in a blowout game. The problem came in because Nate is a hothead and escalated the whole situation by jumping in and jawing at Smith. That is when things got out of control. And Anthony's sucker punch was shameless. It was an embarrassing situation that should not have happened, and IT needs to talk to Nate to make sure something like that does not happen again.
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12/17/2006  12:45 PM
Melo's punch was weak as sh!t. somebody else just knocked Collins over. I see this all the time with NBA players for some reason. They just don't know how to throw a punch. I mean, why bother throwing one at all if you're not looking to knock someone out?

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12/17/2006  1:12 PM
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12/17/2006  1:19 PM
ON THE LIVE NY/DEN BRAWL REPORT, CHRIS SHERIDAN REVEALED THAT CARMELO A. SAID ISIAH WARNED HIM NOT TO COME IN THE PAINT SO THE NUGGETS KNEW A HARD FOUL WAS ON IT'S WAY..
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12/17/2006  1:20 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Zeke gets suspended now.
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12/17/2006  1:20 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

ON THE LIVE NY/DEN BRAWL REPORT, CHRIS SHERIDAN REVEALED THAT CARMELO A. SAID ISIAH WARNED HIM NOT TO COME IN THE PAINT SO THE NUGGETS KNEW A HARD FOUL WAS ON IT'S WAY..

In addition, Nate, during the post game interview, also confirmed that the Knicks knew the foul was coming.

I think Isiah gets suspended too.
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12/17/2006  1:22 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

ON THE LIVE NY/DEN BRAWL REPORT, CHRIS SHERIDAN REVEALED THAT CARMELO A. SAID ISIAH WARNED HIM NOT TO COME IN THE PAINT SO THE NUGGETS KNEW A HARD FOUL WAS ON IT'S WAY..

In addition, Nate, during the post game interview, also confirmed that the Knicks knew the foul was coming.

I think Isiah gets suspended too.

Not only should Isiah get suspended he should be fired. It's just one damn thing after another with this guy, blame the fans, blame the coaches, blame the salary cap, now his team plays like **** and he blames it and takes it out on the Nuggets.

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12/17/2006  1:57 PM
Why not blame John Chaney while we're at it?

He sent a Temple player to do damage didn't he?
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12/17/2006  2:13 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Why not blame John Chaney while we're at it?

He sent a Temple player to do damage didn't he?

PHILADELPHIA -- Temple coach John Chaney suspended himself Wednesday for one game and apologized for putting a player in against Saint Joseph's a day earlier for the sole purpose of rough play and quick fouls.

Chaney offered the self-imposed one-game suspension after meeting with Temple president David Adamany and athletic director Bill Bradshaw. He will be replaced on the bench by assistant Dan Leibovitz for Saturday's game against Massachusetts.

"I would like to apologize to Saint Joseph's University, its fans, student-athletes and head coach Phil Martelli for my reprehensible behavior during Tuesday night's game," Chaney said in a statement. "I spoke with coach Martelli today to voice my apology to him and his team."

Chaney said he was not surprised by reaction to Tuesday's home game.

"I'm either good or bad in some people's eyes," Chaney said in a brief telephone interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday. "There's no gray area. I apologized to the people that matter most."

Adamany also reacted to some Temple students spitting in the direction of St. Joe's players and cheerleaders. He said the first few rows of the student section at the Liacouras Center would be empty for Saturday's game as a reminder they should uphold the standards of good sportsmanship.

Upset by what he thought were illegal screens by Saint Joseph's that were not being called by the officials, Chaney turned to seldom-used 6-foot-8, 250-pound Nehemiah Ingram to "send a message."

Ingram started throwing his arms around and tossing elbows, once connecting hard to the chin of Hawks center Dwayne Jones, and had a hard foul on John Bryant that left him sprawled on the court for several minutes.

Ingram fouled out in four minutes, his average playing time for a game this season. He has played in 14 games, averaging 0.4 points and 0.9 rebounds.

Chaney said after the game he was going to send in a "goon."

"Ingram was not the only person I put in there," Chaney said Wednesday. "I put three or four players in there and were telling them to make hard fouls."

Chaney, called for a technical in the second half after berating the officials, said he never wanted his players to hurt anyone.

"I believe that I was certainly responsible and that I victimized my athletes by telling them to make hard fouls without telling them how a hard foul should be committed," he said.

Atlantic 10 commissioner Linda Bruno supported Chaney's decision to suspend himself.

"Coach Chaney's behavior was uncharacteristic of the way he runs his program and I expect that a similar occurrence will not happen again," Bruno said.

Chaney's only other career suspension came in 1994. Temple suspended the Hall of Famer for one game after he threatened to kill then-Massachusetts coach John Calipari at a postgame news conference.

Chaney complained on Monday during an Atlantic 10 conference call that the Hawks were guilty of setting illegal picks and warned he would send in a "goon," to protect the Owls (13-11, 9-4 Atlantic 10).

"My student-athletes are in no way responsible for my actions last night," said Chaney, 721-294 in 33 seasons.

Bryant complained of a sore right elbow on Wednesday and needed X-rays. He will have an MRI on Thursday and was listed as doubtful for Saturday's game against Rhode Island.

"I grew up watching Chaney, I still admire him, but I don't really understand the situation fully," Bryant said Wednesday. "It was just weird. It didn't really hit me until now. Last night, I was up all night. I couldn't sleep."

Normally mild-mannered Pat Carroll of the Hawks started jawing with Ingram during the game.

"He hit DJ a couple of times and then he hit me coming off a screen," Carroll said Wednesday. "I wasn't hoping for any fights to come out of this thing, but you have to stick up for your teammates."

Saint Joseph's clinched a share of its fifth straight Atlantic 10 title with the 63-56 victory.

"I accepted the apology ... there is nothing more that I can do," Martelli told ESPN Radio on Wednesday. "Listen, it's very disappointing because the welfare of the players is all of our responsibility and for whatever the reason last night they chose not to consider the welfare of my players."
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