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oohah
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12/17/2006  2:10 AM
A sucker punch is not about sneaking up, it means the guy who got hit has his hands down. In other words they are not facing off, but one guy just hauls off and swings.

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12/17/2006  2:29 AM
I don't see Marshmelo getting more than 15 games.
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12/17/2006  2:36 AM
Posted by nattydreadz:

anyone who would stay in the middle of a brawl is stupid. stick and move.... no need to deck the whole team. mardy was the offender and he got what was comin to him. end of story. if the league gives melo the worst suspension, that will just be a ridiculous move. he threw a punch...at most thats 2-4 games. everyone sayin sucker punch... Mardy was right in front of him. the punch was just quick as hell... sucker punching is sneakin up from out of sight, isnt it? bottom line - dont start somethin u cant handle. deal with the consequences.

Get off Melo's ****
The punch he threw was premeditated do you know what that means? he had all intension to do it and he did. Everyone else was in the heat of the moment. Then he started it up again. It was a hard foul, flagrant sure, let the refs deal with it.
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12/17/2006  2:37 AM
I'd say something like:

7 games for Melo
7 games for Mardy
6 games for JR Smith
5 games for Nate
5 games for Jeffries

Could be higher, depending on what kind of message the league wants to send.
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12/17/2006  2:49 AM
Posted by oohah:

Robinson simply got into a fight. He didn't do anything new or wild for an nba brawl. If he gets more than 5 games that's because theNBA is trying to send a message. Collins probably gets less than 5 all he did was commit a flagrant foul, he didn't really fight or want to fight. Smith gets 2 or 3 because he was provoked, however he started the actual fighting. Jeffries gets a couple of games for acting crazy.

The big suspension should be reserved for 'Melo, becuase he sucker-punched Collins, and that is very dangerous, it and it isn't fighting, it's something worse. 10-15

oohah

Go look at the tape. Smith landed at least 1 solid punch also.
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12/17/2006  2:53 AM
Posted by TemujinKnick:
Posted by oohah:

Robinson simply got into a fight. He didn't do anything new or wild for an nba brawl. If he gets more than 5 games that's because theNBA is trying to send a message. Collins probably gets less than 5 all he did was commit a flagrant foul, he didn't really fight or want to fight. Smith gets 2 or 3 because he was provoked, however he started the actual fighting. Jeffries gets a couple of games for acting crazy.

The big suspension should be reserved for 'Melo, becuase he sucker-punched Collins, and that is very dangerous, it and it isn't fighting, it's something worse. 10-15

oohah

Go look at the tape. Smith landed at least 1 solid punch also.

I know Smith landed a punch, so I am not sure what you are getting at. I wrote "Smith gets 2 or 3 because he was provoked, however he started the actual fighting."

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12/17/2006  3:10 AM
Actually Mardy started it and then Nate escalated it into a brawl.

Melo 8 games.
Mardy 5 games.
Nate 5 games.
J.R. 5 games.
Jeffries 3 games.
James 1 game for coming onto the court.
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12/17/2006  5:53 PM
I see Nene left the bench so he will probably get a game or two
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12/17/2006  6:37 PM
Okay the severe penalities should goto obvisously Carmelo Anthony sucker punching a guy who out of nowhere is completely ridiculous. I say about 15 games or so.

The guy that should follow is Nate Robinson 10 games for inciting the violence really Smith was willing to walk away Nate comes plowing in like a complete idiot that he is turns a slight shoving match into a all-out brawl.

Mardy Collins should get about a 5 game suspension because clearly he went out there with intent if you have any doubts about the intent look at the Pacers game its one thing to do it in one game but twice in as many nights.

JR Smith should get 4 games just because he retailated dragged Nate into the crowd.

Jared Jefferies will should get 3 games if even that out of everyone involed in the fight the only one I can really say was trying to do the right thing in bad situation was Jared. I think he was geniuely trying to help out a teammate and just got mixed up but nonetheless a punishable offense.


No one has mentioned this guy but I definetfly think he should get fined and suspended: Isiah Thomas he was the orchestrator of this whole thing. Isiah has been putting out a shoddy product at best most nights and he's been running out of gimmicks of late so he sends a crappy player in to do a very crappy thing. Than the guy's response after the brawl no its one thing for Nate Robinson a dumbass player to make the comments he made but a GM/Coach should show just a bit of professionalism if that is even possible in Isiah's case. Plus Isiah is just a mother****er anyway he deserves to be dealt with like a rapid dog.
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12/17/2006  7:08 PM
After viewing the video several times,I see nate robinson getting the most games suspended .

If nate doesn't step in and start pushing JR and faking a punch, the jawing between Mardy and JR would have ended .....there would have been no Brawl and maybe no punch by melo.
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12/17/2006  7:32 PM
this very issue should test stern's zero tolerance policy
as far as im concerned, melo gets lots of time off for bad behavior

i pass no comment on our players....why should i
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12/17/2006  8:22 PM
Nate Robinson went ADD out there, he set everything off.
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12/17/2006  8:59 PM
damn you guys are harsh

let's not blow this up bigger than what it is.

Melo shouldn't get 3...NO MORE than 5
JR smith should get 1 because he threw a punch
Nate should get 2-3 for instigating
and Mardy should get ZERO. Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

league should consider taking pay away from suspensions....
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12/17/2006  9:24 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:

Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

Flagrant fouls? No.

Premeditated Flagrant fouls? Absolutely.
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12/17/2006  9:25 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Swishfm3:

Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

Flagrant fouls? No.

Premeditated Flagrant fouls? Absolutely.


Actually the NBA does suspend players for flagrant fouls if that player has comitted multiple Flagrant2 type fouls I believe.


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12/17/2006  9:30 PM
I'd suspend David Stern for life.
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12/17/2006  10:35 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Swishfm3:

Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

Flagrant fouls? No.

Premeditated Flagrant fouls? Absolutely.

dude...r u that naive that coaches tell their players to commit hard fouls?

The Knicks & Pistons were famous for not allowing "easy lay ups"
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12/17/2006  10:42 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:

damn you guys are harsh

let's not blow this up bigger than what it is.

Melo shouldn't get 3...NO MORE than 5
JR smith should get 1 because he threw a punch
Nate should get 2-3 for instigating
and Mardy should get ZERO. Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

league should consider taking pay away from suspensions....

Are you SERIOUS? 3 games for blatantly punching someone in the FACE? After the fighting did down?
1 game for throwing a punch and tackling a player into the first couple of rows of the crowd?
2-3 for instigating this whole thing?

Go look at some precedents set, particularly the ones from the Palace incident.

But then again what do I know, I probably never played organized sports. You would know, right?
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islesfan
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12/17/2006  10:43 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Swishfm3:

Unless the league is suspending players for Flagrant fouls now.

Flagrant fouls? No.

Premeditated Flagrant fouls? Absolutely.

dude...r u that naive that coaches tell their players to commit hard fouls?

The Knicks & Pistons were famous for not allowing "easy lay ups"

This wasn't just a hard foul. This was excessive, premeditated and gutless in relation to the circumstances.
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12/17/2006  10:45 PM
that foul by mardy was the 2nd in back to back blowout losses. this is not an isolated incident. i feel bad for mardy.
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