Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)

Well when you have guys who play as good Man-Man defense as the Spurs do, there aren't going to be that many opportunities for shot blocks.

I was going to post the exact same thing but you beat me to it. Pop is probably the best defensive coach in the game. They play great team defense that's anchored by their starting center who has had 7 gms with at least 3blks or more.

Exactly.. as I said a few posts ago, I'd be interested to see if there was actually a stat that said where most shotblocks come from. I personally would think that most shotblocking opportunities come from penetration and help defense and if so, this takes the Spurs out of the equation because individually they play great man to man defense and penetration is limited, which also limits help defense.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by Rich:

Shot blocking stats are misleading. The more important component is how many shots are altered.

Which would suggest if you are a center who can get 3 or more shots blocked 30-40% of games played on the season then more than likely many shots in those games were altered also.

That must explain why 2 of the only 3 guys ever to average 3 blocks per game for their whole career Mark Eaton and Manute Bol were such dominant players. Good call! :)

So what did you think of Bill Russell? He wasn't a great scorer but he was probably the best shotblocker ever who won several championships throughout his career. Matter of fact when matched up against the greatest scoring big man(Wilt) in the game who also was no slouch in other aspects of the game what won out Benard?

Since I know that Curry shoots a high % I would have to say:
20 points
10 rebounds
3 blocks

Posted by K22:

Hey, no hating on Shawn Bradley. He was dunked on by some of the best, dammit. :)

LOL 10th best ever in blocked shots per game. He must have been great! :)

He is ahead of scrubs like Shaq, Patrick, Tim Duncan, Bill Walton, Nate Thurmond, Kevin Garnet, Elvin Hayes, Kevin Mchale, and Bob Lanier. How did those scrubs get to be hall of fame type players and Shawn Braldey, Manute Bol, Elmore Smith and Greg Ostertag (all top 10 in shots blocked per game) are not?


[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 12-16-2006 4:45 PM]

Posted by Anji:

Sidenote SugarRay: YOu seem to be very intune to Centers.......... ZO Mourning Hall of Fame, Yes/NO/Right on the line??????

Right on the line. 50-50 based on the kidney injury. Never elite but just below with 6 or 7 straight years as an all star. His career averages will not look great because of the post Kidney years but if I was a betting man I would say he gets in because people will cut him some slack based on the Kidney problem. I dont mind him getting in. I do mind that Zo and Reggie Miller will get in and Bernard King is not in.
Its funny you mentioned right on the line because I think guys voting yes or no will have valid view points on this one.

Posted by Anji:

YEah these last few years in Miami, with the title and covering for Shaq and putting up Allstar numbers in those few months, I believe will get him in. I was just talking about how two seasons ago ZO is probably out, but with his new found sudo-stardom as Shaqs backup will probably get him in. I still don't don't of him or Reggie as HOfers. Very Very Good... Yes. Alltime elite???? NO.


And Benard will get in. I don't know who he pissed off, but he is the best offensive weapon and could be the best player the Knicks have ever had.

I hope you are right about BK. After he came back from that Knee to be an starter in the all star game he deserves it in my eyes.
People keep saying Reggie is an HOF guy but I dont know about that. I think he was awesome but not dominant spare a few playoff games.

Last year didnt hurt Zo but its hard to give the HOF for just 7 years. Look at Mattingly in Baseball. His first 4 years were HOF material for sure then he just tailed off. I do think Zo gets in though based in part on the sympathy vote. I think you nailed it when you said right on the line.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=261216018


If you take the points away which starting center was the more productive? Here's a hint look at the Block column.

Marcus Camby produces back-to-back 7 block games. Can you imagine if this Knick team had him instead of Curry what they would be like?

Overrated Clap Clap..... Clap Clap Clap


I must add to this post I didn't even bother to look at his other stats until after I posted.

He had 25pts 17reb 5ast to go along with his Block Party

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-18-2006 10:39 PM]

1. 3 blocks
2. 10 rebounds
3. 3 steals (a center who can get three steals a game would be SICK!!!!)

Assuming 3 steals isn't a realistic choice, though, my #3 would be:
2 or more assists

Passing out of the post is huge.

Posted by Solace:

1. 3 blocks
2. 10 rebounds
3. 3 steals (a center who can get three steals a game would be SICK!!!!)

Assuming 3 steals isn't a realistic choice, though, my #3 would be:
2 or more assists

Passing out of the post is huge.

Interesting I feel it's most important for all position players to eliminate opportunities on the defensive end that create opportunity on the offensive end. Especially the Center position. That's why I choose rebounding and blocks first. 3stls is definitely not realistic in terms of an average but producing several games throughout the yr of them isn't. I'm torn on my other choice though.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-19-2006 09:40 AM]

are we still talking about the same Curry who was putting up that stretch of dominant games in the low post over the past 2 weeks that had everyone calling him a possible Allstar C this season? he has 2 off games & now he's a bum again... i love it.