Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Michael6835:

also i hear the mad dog show, chris was actually saying that knick fans should root for them to lose so Isaih can get fired. If this is not a loaded statement, I dont know what is. How does an analyst make that statement ? and still keep his credibility. It sounds like he personally doesnt like IT and it comes out.

Here is my thought. When IT was first hired--I was a big fan of the move and so were others Im sure. He used a crazy method of acquiring players--his latitude for making deals is so far above the next guy [except maybe dallas] that he can afford brash moves like taking on an eddy curry when no one else could afford a financial hit if his health did indeed give out quickly. No team could just take on 20mm+ for a MO taylor with expiring contracts and then add in picks. No one else could trade for Jalen Rose for what was the 21 pick. Along the way--you study his personality and realize he resembles a snake-oil salesman. You add things up and that becomes hard to root for.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by holfresh:


It's amazing to me that in another post you said Morrison was a franchise player and Curry isn't...How do you figure??

Gee a whole post and thats all your calling me out on? Your losing your touch Fresh. j/k

I agree, Morrison is off to a rough start, but if you want to base players off there first 6 months in the NBA than Curry is nowhere close to a franchise player either. Morrison will be a top scorer in this league and he plays the wing position, he creates his own shots, just like other wings. Curry does not create his own shots, he has to be fed the ball in order for him to have ANY impact whatsoever on the game. Curry has been great, but he hasn't been DOMINANT both offensively and defensively, like you have to be when your a big and to be a considered a franchise player. Like it or not, 10 games doesn't make you a franchise player.

Sure Morrison has his flaws and there are numerous flaws at that, but no one has ever questioned his work ethic and attitude like they have questioned Curry's.I also find it funny that you only bring Morrison when I mentioned other players as well, is there any rhyme or reason to that?

Posted by TMS:

Michael, read the following statements made by Isiah & compare them to what he was saying after Jalen & Mo T were bought out & when he responded to questions about whether or not the Knicks would be interested in going after Iverson... this is what i was talking about earlier w/the whole spin doctoring he does to explain everything as if he planned it all along... the trades to get Jalen, Mo T & Malik where he took on longterm contracts to acquire picks helped him put together the young core we have now, but the reasons he gives about those contracts being "valuable assets to have once they become expiring" to justify why he made those deals doesn't hold water when you see what he ended up doing w/those expiring contracts this season... the way he talks out of both sides of his mouth is what i think generates a lot of the distaste that many Knick fans have for this guy.


http://www.insidehoops.com/isiah-conference-022405.shtml

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Michael6835:

also i hear the mad dog show, chris was actually saying that knick fans should root for them to lose so Isaih can get fired. If this is not a loaded statement, I dont know what is. How does an analyst make that statement ? and still keep his credibility. It sounds like he personally doesnt like IT and it comes out.

Here is my thought. When IT was first hired--I was a big fan of the move and so were others Im sure. He used a crazy method of acquiring players--his latitude for making deals is so far above the next guy [except maybe dallas] that he can afford brash moves like taking on an eddy curry when no one else could afford a financial hit if his health did indeed give out quickly. No team could just take on 20mm+ for a MO taylor with expiring contracts and then add in picks. No one else could trade for Jalen Rose for what was the 21 pick. Along the way--you study his personality and realize he resembles a snake-oil salesman. You add things up and that becomes hard to root for.

This is what I don't get about Isiah's perception...What is this snake oil salesman stuff..The players he brought here seems to be legit enough..I hear Mad Dog saying that Isiah cannot be trusted..What does that mean??...Are you giving him your pin to your banking card or something..I'm baffled here..Larry Brown can make all the backroom deals behind the GM's back, that's ok.....He can undermine a season and lead the team to it's worst record in the Franchise's existence and he gets a pass, he is the good guy...Fans will tell you, all he wants to do is win and play the right way...Amazing...

You are so right. LB is 10 times more untrustworthy than IT has every been and yet, no one calls him a snake. IT is managing the media. Yes a lot of what he says in BS, but he is the GM. He cannot tell you what he really thinks. You think he is happy with Marbury and does not realize that he has to go. Of course he sees that, which is why he is sitting Marbury everytime he f--ks up. But he cannot go in the media and say "we need to get rid of Marbury." He is doing what is best for the team, and if that means not telling the truth about everything, then so be it. Some people complain that he has not acknowledged bad moves or accepted the blame for certain things, why the f--k would he acknowledge that. This is a young team on the brink of either falling apart or getting over the hump and finally becoming consistent. The last thing they need is their coach and GM talking about how it was a mistake to bring in this person or that person. IT is doing what he has to to give himself and the team the best chance to succeed this year.