Posted by MS:

Fact, dude, trust me on that one I have a friend who played with the Bulls that said that and they said they didn't like playing with curry because he didn't take basketball seriously, and wasn't someone who played for the love of the game just for the money.

so in other words, you're saying that Curry's always been this good of an offensive player in the low post, it's just his conditioning that's improved this season, correct? i happen to disagree, but if your friend who played with the Bulls says so who can argue?

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Thats not a fact. Thats called heresay to the 2nd degree. I'm friends with all my teammates. I have no idea if they take pills. Who is your friend that played on the Bulls? Did he witness Curry taking pills or is he just guessing? Sorry I dont buy it. The pills werent even illegal but I still dont buy heresay to the 2nd degree as a "fact". A fact is undeniable and proven.

Who's your next witness, counselor? :)

Its a fact i don't give a **** what you say, the pills were perfectly legal and could be purhcased at any nutrition store.....they were just ephedra based, no crime, but how do you think he all of a sudden lost all that weight, lets be realitic, he is more than 20 pounds heavier than his last year in chicago

And the player still plays for the bulls

Posted by MS:

Its a fact i don't give a **** what you say, the pills were perfectly legal and could be purhcased at any nutrition store.....they were just ephedra based, no crime, but how do you think he all of a sudden lost all that weight, lets be realitic, he is more than 20 pounds heavier than his last year in chicago

And the player still plays for the bulls

Dude there is no reason to get upset. It is not a fact. All you have to do is look at the definition of a fact to know it is not a fact.

fact: a concept whose truth can be proved; "scientific hypotheses are not facts"

fact: a statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened;

A fact is proven and undeniable. You have no proof. You have 2nd hand heresay. In fact if this was a libel case you would lose because you have no way of proving your case. 2nd heresay is not proof. Even first hand heresay is not considered proof.

2 plus 2 = 4. That is a fact.
My friend is a former teammate of so and so and he told me xyz is not a fact.
This isnt even the former teammate saying xyz. This is you saying unnamed former teammate said xyz. Please understand I'm not saying your friend did not tell you that. All I'm saying is it is not a fact

[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 12-13-2006 12:07 PM]

Hypothesis SugarRayRichardson must be either independently wealthy or living in his moma'a house. Spends unhealthy amounts of time posting about the Knicks.

Fact SugarRayRichardson spends most of his waking hours posting on message board about the Knicks trying to live his dream vicariously through the internet of being a NBA analysts.

How are all these facts proven: By his incessant posts and the need to always be right. Clearly a sign of a man with a great deal of time on his hands and no women in his life.

Same logic Curry lost a great deal of weight in one summer (remember this isn't a guy who had shown a strong displine) and coupel that with the supposed heart conditions and this "hearsay" could be construed at least on the surface is having some truth in it.

Sorry SugarRay just busting your chops but the guy was just reporting what his friend told let the man be if you think its crap okay but I don't think anyone was looking for a dissertation on the true meaning of the word "fact" and "hearsay".

First off I was just joking around with him so relax. Secondly people are ready to accept some story about a player being gay from some bogus website and thats okay but someone else who is reporting a story he heard from his friend he gets a lesson on the difference between facts and hearsay. Love your double standards there.

not trying to call MS a liar but failing to identify the source & instead referring to him as some nondescript 3rd party source can be legitimately questioned

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Would it make a difference if he said "oh Ben Gordon is my friend and he said....." you would still question the validity of his story. Besides why the hell should he tell us who his friend is believe the story don't believe the story but save the lessons.