I know this is going to sound crazy but i actually think Dolan is taking a lot of blame and responsiblity for whats gone on here. He sounds pretty fair... i cant believe im saying this...

Posted by Elite:

I know this is going to sound crazy but i actually think Dolan is taking a lot of blame and responsiblity for whats gone on here. He sounds pretty fair... i cant believe im saying this...

you're losing your hater cred left and right today.

we are watching the worst owner in pro sports.

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Posted by islesfan:

This interview sucks. Mike and the Mad Dog don't know crap.

the one thing we can take away from this interview is that isiah probably won't get fired this year and dolan sounds like he really likes isiah. that and he hates larry brown.

btw, concerning steve francis - dolan said the both the GM AND THE COACH must approve the deal for it to happen which is a lie b/c lenny didn't want to trade doleac and kvh but isiah did anyway.

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what do you say we put to bed the delusion that this team was going anywhere with kvh and doleac. that short-lived "chemistry" thing wssn't going anwyhere anyway.

.400 ball is nothing to scoff at

i think the biggest problem some people have against that KVH trade was that it was a demonstration that this organization would do anything to cater to Stephon Marbury, rather than looking out for what was good for the team as a whole... they were showing signs of gelling as a team before they pulled the trigger on that deal to bring Tim Thomas here... i think that deal empowered Marbury & made his head even bigger... he was actually pretending to be a team player when he first got here & trying to get along w/KVH... then that trade was made & the year after he came out with his infamous "I'm the best PG" statements... then all the infighting started w/KT as well, no doubt caused by alot of the resentment other teammates felt about his unhealthy relationship w/Isiah Thomas... i'm sure most people realized this team wasn't going to win any championships w/Marbury & KVH as the focal points.

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For whatever the reason, James Dolan actually came across almost personable in this interview. He actually came across as semi-human which I didn't think was absolute possible for him.

Seriously!!! Man i have to agree... I cant believe it but Dolan sounded fair in this interview he took a lot of responsibilty and he took a lot of blame and kinda stepped up to the plate, apologised, said what he wanted, and i dont know if i can be upset with anything he said.. it all sounded pretty fair... i cant believe it but its true

Yes, I don't hate the guy as much after this interview.

i agree for the most part Vmart... Dolan has shown he's willing to spend the big bucks to put together a winner, but he's been incompetent in hiring those responsible to make those basketball decisions for him... still, i can't hate the guy for being a moron... his heart is in the right place for the most part, except that he's shown that he's satisfied to make the playoffs at any cost rather than building for the longterm with championship aspirations as the only acceptable goal.

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Dolan and Isiah are going to be vindicated at the end of this season. Don't let this early inconsistency effect your better judgement. This team has a LOT of talent and it's slowly getting healthy. We haven't seen the best of this team yet. Just remember that. If you look at how the team is playing in comparison to last year it's much better this year and the team isn't even playing well yet. Isiah still has a lot to do, but he's making headway. The 1st half last night was clearly not the way Isiah wants this team to play, but I think he learned something about what works for this team. They actually look like they'll be a VERY good Zone Defensive team and it plays into their skills better, cuz we just can't defend the Pick and Roll if Curry's gonna have to come out with his man to guard the perimeter. So often our Bigs have gotten caught just watching a penetrator go all the way to the basket. We need to go with a zone more often to start games.

Mike and the Mad Dog are LOST. They don't know what they're talking about, when it comes to the NBA.

I just got the feeling Dolan was down to do whatever it took to get us back on track and im feelin that

I listened to them today at the end of the Dolan interview...for lack of better judgement. They were harping on him about NFL Sunday packages, etc. Actually, I was surprisingly impressed with how he handled that part of the interview. Francessa wouldn't let him finish a sentence, and he actually made some good points about that.

Then afterwards Francessa and Mad Dog said some REALLY STUPID things about people who live in downtown Manhattan as if there are no basketball fans and just a bunch of uppity "elitists" who hate sports and want "culture" like the MET, etc. and that's why the Jets screwed up on the West Side Stadium. Too bad that's one BIG sterotype gone wrong (I'm from the lower west side) and actually was not the main reason why Silver voted against it. The Jets were ripping off the city with Bloomy's permission, and was not necessarily the best economic option for the area. Outsiders thought it was great because it's essentially a carpetbagging of Manhattan for non long time city residents, while the MTA was raising fares and selling the land to the Jets under the table for $100 mil when it was appraised at $1 Billion. Then add to the fact that Bloomberg was going to take money that wasn't necessarily his to use and give it to the Jets to build the stadium so he could have his Olympics and hook up his billionaire friends. Yeah, us Manhattaners are so "elitist" huh?

Francessa's comments about the WestWay project getting nixed in the 80's were so off it's too hard to even consider responding. There were SERIOUS environmental concerns about that project amongst other things. True, there are a lot of activits traditionally in the West Village, etc. but not many anymore. When he said how they don't let you build anything I was thinking, how about you go down to the West Street and take a look at it now versus 20 years ago...shoot even 10 years ago and then take your foot out of your mouth. There are all kinds of highrises going up and pushes to turn the MEat Packing District into a neo-Las Vegas. The new High Line park will be built and the Hudson River Park has risen the quality of life and shot rents through the roof, which is leading to the end of the "activists" in the area because they can't afford to live there or have been/are being pressured to leave, to be replaced with "yuppies" and upper class celebs like Calvin Kline, Oprah and too many others to name.

Anyway, I find it interesting that Francessa used to be the NCAA tournemant analyst back in the day and now doesn't even watch the Knicks or the NBA when he has a daily show about NYC sports. Talk about the stereotypical white sports fan...as sad as I am to say that.

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islesfan I don't understand how you could draw most of those conclusions from this interview. While i am one of the biggest Dolan haters, I think he showed that he is embaressed by what has gone on here and even in a way admitted that he wasent paying enough attention to what was going on with the Knicks in the past. I think he is down to do whatever to make us better and make the fans happy. The knicks make up THREE PERCENT of his total income and honestly he diddnt sound like he cared that much if seats were being filled or not it sounded like he aws more concerned with player development and the team getting better. I think it was a great interview for Dolan. And u said isiah is gettnig fired if only there is no hope and the garden is empty? what were you listening to? To me it sounded like the only way Isiah is keeping his job is if its OBVIOUS that he deserves it and as of now, he doesent deserve it..... Whats wrong with that? Sounds fair to me.