Posted by Solace:

Posted by Rich:

Ewing was smart enough to go to Georgetown where he learned under one of the best college coaches of all time. As a result, to compare their relative development at this age is not particularly meaningful.

That's just an excuse. Eddy's in his sixth year in the league, and the moment he came into the NBA, he got minutes. Eddy is still doing one thing very well (interior post game), and rebounding below-average rate for a center. The rest of his game is still poor, and needs to improve. Until such time, there's no comparison between Patrick and Eddy. Despite that, Eddy may yet be a highlight in a poorly constructed team. He did a lot of things he didn't usually do during last game. If he can make that a nightly habit, he'll remove a lot of the criticism.

I hate the word excuse. What exactly is Curry being excused from? The boos? No he still gets those. Criticism? No, he still gets that.

Having the opportunity to go to a major college to play against top competition is like going to Havard or Yale before law or med or b school. It's the best way to develop your skills.

I'm not comparing him to Ewing, but to dismiss the fact that Curry may finally be getting it, is not a particularly useful way to look at things.

Ewing carried the knicks on his back for winning seasons for yrs. Curry carried the knicks on his back for wins for only a few games.

If Curry had just half of Ewings defensive ability. We would be 14-8 instead of 8-14.

http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_bio.html

So I will have to see it to believe it first before I see Curry as a true franchise player. Right now though he is ours because we don't have anyone close to the amount of upside he has.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Rich:

I hate the word excuse. What exactly is Curry being excused from? The boos? No he still gets those. Criticism? No, he still gets that.

Having the opportunity to go to a major college to play against top competition is like going to Havard or Yale before law or med or b school. It's the best way to develop your skills.

I'm not comparing him to Ewing, but to dismiss the fact that Curry may finally be getting it, is not a particularly useful way to look at things.

You're right that going to a good college program is generally more useful to a developing player than to hop straight into the NBA. But to excuse Curry, as far as to say you can't compare him to another NBA player at the same age for that reason is well just not right. There's still time for Eddy to improve, but that window will quickly close... and that fact has nothing to do with him jumping straight to the NBA. Not after 5 1/4 years in the NBA.

His window closes at 26-27. The player he is or becomes at that age is the player that he will be for the rest of his career.

Well, that's when he hits his prime. What's worse is around 30, he will start to decline. You also have to figure, that it's hard to make big leaps the closer you get to that peak, so his window is getting close to closing. I think it's already out of the question that he becomes a great rebounder, but the effort is the thing that can carry him to a potential all-star level. Still, Eddy is 24... so if we're saying in two years, he's at his prime, then he has a way to go in that time to prove himself worthy.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Rich:

I hate the word excuse. What exactly is Curry being excused from? The boos? No he still gets those. Criticism? No, he still gets that.

Having the opportunity to go to a major college to play against top competition is like going to Havard or Yale before law or med or b school. It's the best way to develop your skills.

I'm not comparing him to Ewing, but to dismiss the fact that Curry may finally be getting it, is not a particularly useful way to look at things.

You're right that going to a good college program is generally more useful to a developing player than to hop straight into the NBA. But to excuse Curry, as far as to say you can't compare him to another NBA player at the same age for that reason is well just not right. There's still time for Eddy to improve, but that window will quickly close... and that fact has nothing to do with him jumping straight to the NBA. Not after 5 1/4 years in the NBA.

His window closes at 26-27. The player he is or becomes at that age is the player that he will be for the rest of his career.

Well, that's when he hits his prime. What's worse is around 30, he will start to decline. You also have to figure, that it's hard to make big leaps the closer you get to that peak, so his window is getting close to closing. I think it's already out of the question that he becomes a great rebounder, but the effort is the thing that can carry him to a potential all-star level. Still, Eddy is 24... so if we're saying in two years, he's at his prime, then he has a way to go in that time to prove himself worthy.

I don't expect him to ever become a complete post player. But if he can become the consistant scoring threat on offense that teams have no answer for. Up his rebounding to 8 a game. Pass just a little more out of the post. And not foul on EVERY contested shot. I will be more than happy. He came a very very long way from last yr. Last yr he ran over everyone in his way, didn't pass or provide any defense whatsoever. I will be lieing to you if I were to say that I expected him to improve like this and make the run he has made.

30 wouldn't be his declining yr. I would say about 32. He hasn't played 30mins a game in 5yrs. He still has a lot of miles left to go if he starts picking it up now.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Ewing carried the knicks on his back for winning seasons for yrs. Curry carried the knicks on his back for wins for only a few games.

If Curry had just half of Ewings defensive ability. We would be 14-8 instead of 8-14.

http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_bio.html

So I will have to see it to believe it first before I see Curry as a true franchise player. Right now though he is ours because we don't have anyone close to the amount of upside he has.

Patrick also had troubles on defense in his first 3 years. One reason pittino thought it would be good for us to be a full court trap team. We also lost a ton of games in patricks early years. Guys mature. guys learn the game. curry will never be patrick but he will continue to progress

The yr Curry carries/leads/brings us to 50wins is the yr I become a believer that he is a true franchise player. Until then he is a center that has improved a lot and has a lot of potential. Which is all I can really as for at this point anyway.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Eddy is still doing one thing very well (interior post game), and rebounding below-average rate for a center.

This month Eddy is averaging over ten rebounds a game (27 points). If he keeps that up, I'll give him a lot of credit even though his defense is still bad.

Right, I meant overall for the season. 7 rpg is low for a center who gets as many minutes as Eddy. Agreed, if he finished the season with stats that even approached 10 rpg, we'd all be pretty satisfied with him, despite his defensive woes.