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How can the fans boo with the team up 3 with less than 3 minutes to go?
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Solace
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12/10/2006  5:20 PM
How can the fans boo with the team up 3 with less than 3 minutes to go?

The team was 7-14 at that point, despite Isiah's promises of the team vastly improving this year. They almost blew a 16 point lead (or however much it was), in the span of minutes. The fans in any city would boo under those circumstances.
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12/10/2006  6:13 PM
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Did DJ over sleep? Where is his blog?

The MSG flacks told him to cool it or lose his section 404 privileges. From now on, he can't blog without a MSG public relations person being present.
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12/10/2006  8:38 PM
I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer. When a team gives up a 17 point lead and its down to the 3, you can damn well expect boos.

Isiah Thomas really sucked all you guys in with this fan garbage. You fell right for it.
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12/10/2006  8:43 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer. When a team gives up a 17 point lead and its down to the 3, you can damn well expect boos.

Isiah Thomas really sucked all you guys in with this fan garbage. You fell right for it.

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12/10/2006  8:45 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer. When a team gives up a 17 point lead and its down to the 3, you can damn well expect boos.

Isiah Thomas really sucked all you guys in with this fan garbage. You fell right for it.

Your first and second sentences completely contradict one another. You imply in your first sentence that no one should have a right to tell fans when to boo or cheer, yet in the second sentence you do just that. You "inform" us that if a team does something that you believe justifies booing, then that is when fans are allowed to boo.
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12/10/2006  8:47 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer. When a team gives up a 17 point lead and its down to the 3, you can damn well expect boos.

Isiah Thomas really sucked all you guys in with this fan garbage. You fell right for it.

Your first and second sentences completely contradict one another. You imply in your first sentence that no one should have a right to tell fans when to boo or cheer, yet in the second sentence you do just that. You "inform" us that if a team does something that you believe justifies booing, then that is when fans are allowed to boo.

I said you can EXPECT boos. In no way did I say if you should or shouldn't boo. You are assuming what my stance would be and that's not fair because you are putting words in my mouth. Me saying EXPECT boos and me saying everyone SHOULD boo are two different things.
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12/10/2006  9:10 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer. When a team gives up a 17 point lead and its down to the 3, you can damn well expect boos.

Isiah Thomas really sucked all you guys in with this fan garbage. You fell right for it.

Your first and second sentences completely contradict one another. You imply in your first sentence that no one should have a right to tell fans when to boo or cheer, yet in the second sentence you do just that. You "inform" us that if a team does something that you believe justifies booing, then that is when fans are allowed to boo.

I said you can EXPECT boos. In no way did I say if you should or shouldn't boo. You are assuming what my stance would be and that's not fair because you are putting words in my mouth. Me saying EXPECT boos and me saying everyone SHOULD boo are two different things.

Fair enough. I substituted the word allowed for expect, but I'm not sure I understand how there is much of a difference based on the way you phrased your sentences. You said "you can damn well expect boos" which implies that fans are justified in booing given that situation. If they are justified in doing so then you seem to be saying that they are ALLOWED to boo based on the situation you presented.

Never did I write you said fans SHOULD boo, which I know you did not. What you said was just as I wrote it in the above paragraph. Just to repeat you wrote that the players should expect boos if they play badly, which is essentially saying that you consent to booing from fans if certain things happen. Is that not what you are saying?

If so then you are saying that fans are ALLOWED to boo, which is still in direct contradiction to the first sentence of that original post I commented on. Here's the quote again:

Originally posted by nyk4ever:


I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer.

[Edited by - PresIke on 12-10-2006 9:10 PM]
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12/10/2006  9:14 PM
Posted by PresIke:


If so then you are saying that fans are ALLOWED to boo, which is still in direct contradiction to the first sentence of that original post I commented on. Here's the quote again:

[Edited by - PresIke on 12-10-2006 9:10 PM]

How is that a contradiction? It's a fans right to boo or cheer when they feel that either one is necessary at the time. I don't see how that is contradicting my stance of other fans telling when others are allowed to boo. Fans can do whatever they want, whose to tell them they can't boo?
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12/10/2006  9:24 PM
Because you are telling people that they are ALLOWED to boo if the Knicks don't do well.

Fans will do whatever they want, yes. No one is going to stop them, but by your assertion, you say that they CAN or are ALLOWED to, yet you are also saying that you have a problem with people telling fans when they are ALLOWED to boo. You are doing the exact same thing that you take a stand against.
Fans can do whatever they want, whose to tell them they can't boo?

I'll use your own words, but reverse it...Who's to tell them when they can?

In this case you are.
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12/10/2006  9:27 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Because you are telling people that they are ALLOWED to boo if the Knicks don't do well.

Fans will do whatever they want, yes. No one is going to stop them, but by your assertion, you say that they CAN or are ALLOWED to, yet you are also saying that you have a problem with people telling fans when they are ALLOWED to boo. You are doing the exact same thing that you take a stand against.
Fans can do whatever they want, whose to tell them they can't boo?

I'll use your own words, but reverse it...Who's to tell them when they can?

In this case you are.

I'm not telling anyone to do anything! All I said is that you can EXPECT fans to boo when a team gives up a 17point lead. Thats not me telling anyone to boo that is me watching sports all my life and seeing what happens when large leads dissipate; fans boo.

All you are doing is twisting my words to read the way that YOU want them to read.
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12/10/2006  9:28 PM
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12/10/2006  9:28 PM
You say you can EXPECT fans to boo, I say you can't EXPECT fans to boo. Then you come back and tell me:
I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer.
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12/10/2006  9:30 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Because you are telling people that they are ALLOWED to boo if the Knicks don't do well.

Fans will do whatever they want, yes. No one is going to stop them, but by your assertion, you say that they CAN or are ALLOWED to, yet you are also saying that you have a problem with people telling fans when they are ALLOWED to boo. You are doing the exact same thing that you take a stand against.
Fans can do whatever they want, whose to tell them they can't boo?

I'll use your own words, but reverse it...Who's to tell them when they can?

In this case you are.

And then you'll be there to criticize them for whatever they do.
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12/10/2006  9:30 PM
LOL @ dj.....very appropriate. dj does not care about optimistic knick fans.
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12/10/2006  9:30 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by BlueSeats:

What game was that? When I was there the presumed boo birds were cheering while you sat alone under a dark pensive cloud.
hahaha..they were cheering the loss. Classic: I was standing up to cheer the starting lineup when djsu yells, SIT DOWN! hahaha! I know what you mean though. We have seen so many bad seasons, we almost expect it to get worse.

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12/10/2006  9:30 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

You say you can EXPECT fans to boo, I say you can't EXPECT fans to boo. Then you come back and tell me:
I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer.

Bingo.
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12/10/2006  9:31 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

You say you can EXPECT fans to boo, I say you can't EXPECT fans to boo. Then you come back and tell me:
I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer.

Then you haven't been watching sports long enough.

If you can tell me where I told anyone too boo then fine but I didn't tell anyone too boo or not boo. I said you can EXPECT fans to boo because thats what happens when large leads disappear. If you don't want to take my word for it then watch ANY game and see what happens when a team gives up a 17 point lead, a 6 run lead or a 3TD lead in football. FAN FRIGGEN BOO.

I'm not telling anyone to boo. I'm saying it's expected because thats what happened with every single sport I've watched.
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12/10/2006  9:32 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by Silverfuel:

You say you can EXPECT fans to boo, I say you can't EXPECT fans to boo. Then you come back and tell me:
I love how people on this forum deem when other fans are allowed to boo and cheer.

Bingo.

No it's not bingo because I didn't tell anyone to boo or not. I said EXPECT boos because thats what happens when a team gives up a large lead in any sport.

How you or anyone else gets from that. "You are allowed to boo" is beyond me, because I never said it.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-10-2006 9:33 PM]
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12/10/2006  9:36 PM
Every professional sports team on this planet has been booed by their fans at one point or another. Teams that are struggling and haven't had even moderate success in a few years get booed more often and their fans usually don't have a long fuse. That's just the way it is.

But if you guys want to keep pretending that it's just the Knicks and their fans, go ahead.
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12/10/2006  9:37 PM
You guys are great, especially you Silverfuel. You love getting in arguments and twisting peoples words around to fit them how you want them and then use them in your twisted manner. It's really pretty good.
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How can the fans boo with the team up 3 with less than 3 minutes to go?

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