Posted by Bippity10:



I can't beleive that people are okay with the fact that we are a coutrywide laughingstock. What slack has he earned is the question of the day.

Thats what happens when you like someone more than you like your favorite time. It's sad really.

If there were only more who thought like Bip....

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-08-2006 2:23 PM]

Fans: "Who do you think you are?"
IT: "I am not a Spy!!!!"

Posted by Solace:

Posted by nyk4ever:

If there were only more who thought like Bip....

If that were the case, the world would explode.

Isiah would weasel himself out of that one too and blame the explosion on the knick fans.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Bippity10:



I can't beleive that people are okay with the fact that we are a coutrywide laughingstock. What slack has he earned is the question of the day.

Thats what happens when you like someone more than you like your favorite time. It's sad really.

If there were only more who thought like Bip....

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-08-2006 2:23 PM]

If only. I will say one thing Isiah has done a tremendous job of. Lowering the standards of the average Knick fan. Give us 35 wins, no D and a playoff spot and the guy will be given a friggin parade. He has lowered our standards into the toilet. He is a survivor and has done a tremendous job in this regard.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I love how everyone says now "I can't answer any of these because the poll is loaded" just because they don't agree with the poll. I don't see how the poll is loaded, the choices are clear cut and there is a choice for everyone.

By the way, I agree with you Solace and Blue, it seems to me that Isiah gets alot more slack and undeservedly. I just can't see how he can get some slack when he's 92-146, thats a whopping .386 winning % as the head of this franchise. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-08-2006 2:06 PM]

Isiah gets slack????? Where...The Knicks are down three to the Nets in the loss column...You hear nothing about the GM or Coach of the Nets who by the way has had a better team than the knicks for quite some time now....If Isiah gets a break, how is it Lawrence Frank name has never made a back page in this town...



[Edited by - holfresh on 12-08-2006 2:15 PM]

Isiah gets slack from a group of posters on this board was the point of the word of the word "slack" sorry I didn't make that more clear. You are one of the posters that cuts him slack at every turn and if you want to argue with the 92-146 record he has as head of this franchise, go ahead and try it but you won't get far.

Let me explain why I give Isiah "slack"....If anyone had asked me during the Layden era that I would have a Center who will more that likely give me 20 and 9 in three years...2 PF competing for a starting spot that can arguably give you a double double with playing time any night.....A player like Q and we have this to build with...I would say where do I sign...I would support this movement wholeheartedly...These guys are 26 and under...The 3 key pieces are 23 and under....When they learn the game they are going to be awesome....I know the Knicks cant win this season and maybe not the next...But most here are expecting Glory overnight, life and basketball doesn't work that way....Bip really surprises me....But hey I'm a realist...

Posted by holfresh:

But hey I'm a realist...

ROFLOLMAOMGTGTFORLYARLY

zomg lol

Glory overnight???

This is what I've seen.

1.) A 23 win season in which the matchup between coach and players was so bad that we became a nightly punchline.

2.) Led one coach out with security guards

3.) Two hall of fame coaches left on a horrible note

4.) Most of the players he has brought in are gone in under 2 years, no matter how he brings them here

5.) No tv appearances for a NY based franchise

6.) Making trades for assets that he then pulls a 180 on and cuts a year or two later.

7.) Free-agent signings that sign long-term contracts and don't play

8.) Did I mention we are a laughingstock.

9.) Gone backwards since his arrival

I could go on and on but my brain is not at full capacity right now. He has done some good things. I'm not a hater. I respect the young talent that he's brought in. But I would much rather have a different GM here to build around this young talent. With the trade deadline fast approaching and the heat bearing down on Isiah what are the guarantees that he won't make another blockbuster deal for "assets" that will be gone in a year. Again, I like the young guys but that does not dismiss what he haas done to the image of this franchise. You cannot win this way. I'll give him a shot as a coach but as GM, how this guy still has a job is beyond me.

I honestly think the peopole that cut him slack do so because they pretend last year didn't exist or it was all LB's fault. While the rest of the fans are still booing because of what we saw last year has continued to this day.

Solace - Can you please qualify what "tanking" the season means?

what evidence of a "tank job" can you cite?

nyk4ever - last season there was empirical evidence with the arbitrary starting lineups, benching of David Lee and the "home town" auditions

what evidence of a "tank job" can you cite THIS season?

djsu - you got jokes

I can dig it

you think with Steveie out for a week that Shoebury and Quentin will get in a backcourt fistfight in the middle of a timeout?

Now that's entertainment!

Posted by holfresh:

...a Center who will more that likely give me 20 and 9 in three years...2 PF competing for a starting spot that can arguably give you a double double with playing time any night.....

But hey I'm a realist...

LMAO Yeah sure you are.