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bettalaylow
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12/8/2006  12:21 PM
YOu are smoking son......... you need to breath in and speak less with Isiah and Marbury on the brain. JJ2 was a starter on a playoff wizards team, his numbers aren't great, ok and???? He is a glue guy. Jamison numbers are great and he got benched more times then JJ2 in washington, because jj2 provides intangible talents......... which oddly means unmeasureable, go figure.

Did you watch those playoff series JJ2 was absolutely abused in that playoff series. Jamison getting benched what are talking about he plays like 40 minutes a game so at least check the guy' stats. Glue guy to GLUE WHAT EXACTLY?
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bettalaylow
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12/8/2006  12:23 PM
Frye, Lee and nate

I would automatically condemn Frye under the right coach I think he can flourish. Lee is and always will be a role player hardly a steal and hardly anything to build a franchise's future around. Nate pleeeeeeze I total circus clown.
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12/8/2006  1:04 PM
Posted by K22:
"It was a bad night. We accept it, but we're still very proud men and we're going to conduct ourselves in that way."


Yeah when your face of the franchise kicks the ball into the stands and hides under a pile of towels it's a great look. How long till you and your guys start flipping the bird to the fans?... with dignity, of course.
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12/8/2006  1:15 PM
From personal case of the NY psychiatric clinic patient checked in in January 2007.

IT Couch:
"I can understand the fans booung. Course this is unfortunate situation after this IT GM collected this flawed roster we are dealing with now... Ohh…"
IT GM:
"We have nice group of talented young and athletic players which can flourish but unfortunately the couching mistakes of IT couch and luck of couching vision making a lot of problems for us. Ohh..."
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12/8/2006  1:15 PM
Posted by TMS:

i'm pretty sure he does know more about basketball than anyone on this forum or in the stands that night, so what he said doesn't really offend me... but now is not really the right time to be saying it w/the team struggling the way it is & his public image getting worse & worse.

he needs to do what we've been telling Marbury to do, & that is to just shut up & do his job.
I knew it was a bad idea to give Jerome a 5 year deal. There's one thing I knew more than he did.

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12/8/2006  1:20 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by TMS:

i'm pretty sure he does know more about basketball than anyone on this forum or in the stands that night, so what he said doesn't really offend me... but now is not really the right time to be saying it w/the team struggling the way it is & his public image getting worse & worse.

he needs to do what we've been telling Marbury to do, & that is to just shut up & do his job.
I knew it was a bad idea to give Jerome a 5 year deal. There's one thing I knew more than he did.


LOL Nice!
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12/8/2006  1:24 PM
IT's going to continue to be a hostile environment for Isiah and his Knicks until they start winning and generating some good vibes at the garden.

The press is always ready to feed the conflict with their interpretations. However, I'm not sure there's much Isiah can say that can be interpreted positively until the Knicks start winning consistently at home.
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12/8/2006  1:24 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by TMS:

i'm pretty sure he does know more about basketball than anyone on this forum or in the stands that night, so what he said doesn't really offend me... but now is not really the right time to be saying it w/the team struggling the way it is & his public image getting worse & worse.

he needs to do what we've been telling Marbury to do, & that is to just shut up & do his job.
I knew it was a bad idea to give Jerome a 5 year deal. There's one thing I knew more than he did.


yeah, well so did i, but i'm pretty sure you never played on a back to back NBA champion or had the HOF career than Isiah did either.
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12/8/2006  1:25 PM
IT knows everything about bbal.
No one in the whole world will be able to destroy the basketball organization so fast and doomed it for so many years to come. He is a basketball genius - crazy villain professor. We need a Supper Hero to rescue us!!!
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12/8/2006  1:34 PM
It's not even game 37 and fans are complaining about wins and losses. I've said time and time again, wait until game 37 to judge this team.
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12/8/2006  1:38 PM


daily news agenda (isola, lawrence, lupica) is to feed isiah to the wolves.

this is a media/fan battle isiah can't win. pressure is on even more now.
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12/8/2006  1:39 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or not, but you and I both know what the weaknesses of this team are and just how glaring they are.
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arkrud
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12/8/2006  1:40 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

It's not even game 37 and fans are complaining about wins and losses. I've said time and time again, wait until game 37 to judge this team.

37?
Is it you Lucky number?
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BlueSeats
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12/8/2006  1:59 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

It's not even game 37 and fans are complaining about wins and losses. I've said time and time again, wait until game 37 to judge this team.

Unless game 37 falls on a full moon or a rainy day, than you'd have to wait an additional 37 games, if not more.
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12/8/2006  2:01 PM
Clearly Isiah doesn't know near as much as he thinks he does, and the avearge fan can tell you a few things that Isiah could not.....

1. Signing Jerome James was and still is one of the worst signings in the NBA and the history of the organization
2. Trading for Francis was going to be a disaster if you didn't plan on moving him
3. Targeting weak minds to play in one of the toughest cities in the world is not going to work
4. Players that don't work hard get chewed up in this city.......

So I really don't think Isiah has a clue, nor am I really impressed with his knowledge of the game, just because your a great player doesn't mean you know what it takes to build a contender......

Am I the casual fan going to make bonehead decisions like the Timberwolves, Hawks, and Knicks GM's probably not, you don't overvalue and give contracts or take contracts back from players that are losers.........

Do these people know more about playing the game, yeah without question......

But for Isiah to say the fans don't see what i see is another indication he is a classless fool, you can't **** up an organization quicker in a shorter period of time.....

WOULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED IF A KNOWLEDGEABLE FAN TOOK OVER
1. 6,000 less people every night in the building
2. Hatred throughout the NBA, the city, and the media for a team
3. Black balled from all networks, abc, tnt, espn for an entire year
4. Jerome James and Steve Francis
5. Paying for Anderson, Taylor, Rose, J. Williams all not on the team anymore
6. Paying for coaches Wilkens, Brown and handling the situation like a classless snake
Bippity10
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12/8/2006  2:10 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Bippity10:

It's not even game 37 and fans are complaining about wins and losses. I've said time and time again, wait until game 37 to judge this team.

Unless game 37 falls on a full moon or a rainy day, than you'd have to wait an additional 37 games, if not more.

This is very true. We also have to keep in mind that even if we are 7-30 at game 37, if Isiah tells us not to be upset we cannot judge at that point. At that point we would have to wait until he tells us it's okay to judge. So now that we all know the rules I take it we can get back to rejoicing about our team.
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12/8/2006  2:22 PM
Posted by misterearl:

>>There is not a worst GM in professional sports right now

bettalaylow - not even worth disputing so long as you provide another basketball GM who inherited the same roster, mandated salary cap and changed the franchise fortunes in a little under three years.

but that's just me

Here's the thing though, Isiah knew all of those things before accepting the job and told Dolan that he could turn it around. That was his sales line.
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BlueSeats
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12/8/2006  2:26 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by misterearl:

>>There is not a worst GM in professional sports right now

bettalaylow - not even worth disputing so long as you provide another basketball GM who inherited the same roster, mandated salary cap and changed the franchise fortunes in a little under three years.

but that's just me

Here's the thing though, Isiah knew all of those things before accepting the job and told Dolan that he could turn it around. That was his sales line.


I agree. I suspect he said something like "we (riding Donny Walsh's coattails) rebuilt Indiana on the fly in three years while making the playoffs every year, and with positive funding I can do the same for you."


[Edited by - blueseats on 12-08-2006 2:30 PM]
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12/8/2006  2:46 PM
Posted by MS:

Clearly Isiah doesn't know near as much as he thinks he does, and the avearge fan can tell you a few things that Isiah could not.....

1. Signing Jerome James was and still is one of the worst signings in the NBA and the history of the organization
2. Trading for Francis was going to be a disaster if you didn't plan on moving him
3. Targeting weak minds to play in one of the toughest cities in the world is not going to work
4. Players that don't work hard get chewed up in this city.......

So I really don't think Isiah has a clue, nor am I really impressed with his knowledge of the game, just because your a great player doesn't mean you know what it takes to build a contender......

Am I the casual fan going to make bonehead decisions like the Timberwolves, Hawks, and Knicks GM's probably not, you don't overvalue and give contracts or take contracts back from players that are losers.........

Do these people know more about playing the game, yeah without question......

But for Isiah to say the fans don't see what i see is another indication he is a classless fool, you can't **** up an organization quicker in a shorter period of time.....

WOULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED IF A KNOWLEDGEABLE FAN TOOK OVER
1. 6,000 less people every night in the building
2. Hatred throughout the NBA, the city, and the media for a team
3. Black balled from all networks, abc, tnt, espn for an entire year
4. Jerome James and Steve Francis
5. Paying for Anderson, Taylor, Rose, J. Williams all not on the team anymore
6. Paying for coaches Wilkens, Brown and handling the situation like a classless snake

You forgot a couple of other things that the average fans knows:

1. Rebuilding teams shouldn't trade away unprotected #1 picks.
2. Tripling the salary cap is not a good thing.
3. Siding with Marbury the coach killer and team cancer over the head coach is a bad thing.
4. Questioning the intelligence of the fans, who still bother to show up, is stupid.
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12/8/2006  3:02 PM
Islesfan - c'mon dude, if Bill Parcells said the same thing people would be throwing him a parade and the press would not dare craft the same headlines.

Wise Guy?

Gimme a break.

How about the memorable Good Riddance headline for Patrick Ewing?

another winner

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