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gr33d
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12/8/2006  12:18 PM
code,

Most of your data relates to heavy or frequent ganja use. Not to be a tool or anything, but isn't too much of anything bad for you, these days?

These studies seem loaded no? What about studies describing the effects of moderate or light use? I wonder if such even exists??
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12/8/2006  12:28 PM
Posted by gr33d:

code,

Most of your data relates to heavy or frequent ganja use. Not to be a tool or anything, but isn't too much of anything bad for you, these days?

These studies seem loaded no? What about studies describing the effects of moderate or light use? I wonder if such even exists??

Absolutely, too much of anything is bad. Alcohol, vitamins, anything. But, thats the nature of addiction and abuse, which go hand-in-hand with weed. Keep in mind, these studies were conducted after an imposed 28 day abstinence on both groups to assess non-acute, longer term effects. The early-onset data is especially alarming because thats the age most kids get involved with marijuana.

I usually like to keep it light on these forums, but I couldn't let this one go. Kids read these forums. Giving them one more reason not to do weed is a good thing.
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Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by gr33d:

code,

Most of your data relates to heavy or frequent ganja use. Not to be a tool or anything, but isn't too much of anything bad for you, these days?

These studies seem loaded no? What about studies describing the effects of moderate or light use? I wonder if such even exists??

Absolutely, too much of anything is bad. Alcohol, vitamins, anything. But, thats the nature of addiction and abuse, which go hand-in-hand with weed. Keep in mind, these studies were conducted after an imposed 28 day abstinence on both groups to assess non-acute, longer term effects. The early-onset data is especially alarming because thats the age most kids get involved with marijuana.

Totaly agree with your last comment here, that one caught me off guard. I assume things like happen because the brain is still in it's developmental stages?
I usually like to keep it light on these forums, but I couldn't let this one go. Kids read these forums. Giving them one more reason not to do weed is a good thing.

Good call, I hadn't even given it that much thought honestly.

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Another recent study from our laboratory ... found virtually no significant differences between 108 heavy cannabis users and 72 controls -- screened to exclude those with current psychiatric disorders, medication use, or any history of significant use of other drugs or alcohol -- on a battery of ten neuropsychological tests after 28 days of supervised abstinence from the drug," he said.

Bang, harvard study.
NO BRAIN DAMAGE SEEN IN MARIJUANA-EXPOSED MONKEYS
California NORML Reports, April 1992


Two new scientific studies have failed to find evidence of brain damage in monkeys exposed to marijuana, undercutting claims that marijuana causes brain damage in humans.

The studies were conducted by two independent research groups. The first, conducted by Dr. William Slikker, Jr. and others at the National Center for Toxicological Research in Arkansas examined some 64 rhesus monkeys, half of which were exposed to daily or weekly doses of marijuana smoke for a year. The other, by Gordon T. Pryor and Charles Rebert at SRI International in Menlo Park, California, which is still unpublished, looked at over 30 rhesus monkeys that had inhaled marijuana one to three times a day over periods of 6 to 12 months. Neither study found evidence of structural or neurochemical changes in the brains of the monkeys when examined a few months after cessation of smoking.

The new results cast doubt on earlier studies purporting to show brain damage in animals. The most famous of these was a study by Dr. Robert Heath, who claimed to find brain damage in three monkeys heavily exposed to cannabis. Heath's results failed to win general acceptance in the scientific community because of the small number of subjects, questionable controls, and heavy doses.

Bang another one.

[Edited by - izybx on 12-08-2006 10:19 AM]

Every once in a while, you stick your foot so far down your mouth it rips you a new ass hole. Thats what you just did. Congratulations.

First of all, I went to Harvard medical school, so the irony here is quite entertaining. I don't want to embarass you, but since you were uneducated and rude enough to make the statement you made, I feel obligated to throw some articles your way. Some are from Harvard. Some are from Hopkins for good measure.

To thoroughly convince you of your idiocy, the last two are from your favorite Harvard researcher, Harrison Pope, who recently has changed his tune quite a bit. Especially look at the last article by Dr. Pope.

For those actually interested in the research, Pope's initial studies were retrospective reviews using arbitrary neurological tests - both the choice of primary outcomes and confounding variables were highly questionable. The gold standard for clinical research is a prospective interventional study.

Here are a plethora of articles demonstrating long-term effects of marijuana use:

1. Dose-related neurocognitive effects of marijuana use.Bolla KI, Brown K, Eldreth D, Tate K, Cadet JL.
Department of Neurology, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Hopkins Bayview Research Campus, Baltimore, MD 21224, USA. kbolla@jhmi.edu


CONCLUSIONS: Very heavy use of marijuana is associated with persistent decrements in neurocognitive performance even after 28 days of abstinence.

2. Solowij N, Stephens RS, Roffman RA, Babor T, Kadden R, Miller M, Christiansen K, McRee B, Vendetti J; Marijuana Treatment Project Research Group.
National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, University of New South Wales, Sydney, NSW 2052, Australia. n.solowij@unsw.edu.au

CONCLUSIONS: These results confirm that long-term heavy cannabis users show impairments in memory and attention that endure beyond the period of intoxication and worsen with increasing years of regular cannabis use.

3. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 1996 Nov;53(11):1051-7. Links
Cognitive correlates of long-term cannabis use in Costa Rican men.Fletcher JM, Page JB, Francis DJ, Copeland K, Naus MJ, Davis CM, Morris R, Krauskopf D, Satz P.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Texas-Houston Medical School, USA.

CONCLUSION: Long-term cannabis use was associated with disruption of short-term memory, working memory, and attentional skills in older long-term cannabis users.

4. Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2006 Apr;185(3):358-68. Epub 2006 Mar 7. Links
Long-term effects of frequent cannabis use on working memory and attention: an fMRI study.Jager G, Kahn RS, Van Den Brink W, Van Ree JM, Ramsey NF.
Rudolf Magnus Institute of Neuroscience, Department of Psychiatry, A.01.126, University Medical Center, Heidelberglaan 100, 3584 CX, Utrecht, The Netherlands. gjager@umcutrecht.nl

Conclusions: For working memory, a more specific region-of-interest analysis showed that, in comparison to the controls, cannabis users displayed a significant alteration in brain activity in the left superior parietal cortex.

5. Brain Res Cogn Brain Res. 2005 Apr;23(1):107-18. Links
Neuroimaging of marijuana smokers during inhibitory processing: a pilot investigation.Gruber SA, Yurgelun-Todd DA.
Cognitive Neuroimaging Laboratory, Brain Imaging Center, McLean Hospital, Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. gryber@mclean.harvard.edu

Conclusions: Findings from this study are consistent with the notion that substance abusers demonstrate evidence of altered frontal neural function during the performance of tasks that involve inhibition and performance monitoring, which may affect the ability to make decisions.

6. Exp Clin Psychopharmacol. 2006 Nov;14(4):422-8. Links
Altered regional blood volume in chronic cannabis smokers.Sneider JT, Pope HG Jr, Silveri MM, Simpson NS, Gruber SA, Yurgelun-Todd DA.
Cognitive Neuroimaging Laboratory, Brain Imaging Center, McLean Hospital, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. jtsneider@mclean.harvard.edu

Results: Cannabis users demonstrated significantly increased blood volumes in the right frontal area (p < .05), in the left temporal area (p < .005), and in the cerebellum (p < .005) relative to comparison subjects.

7. Drug Alcohol Depend. 2003 Apr 1;69(3):303-10. Links
Early-onset cannabis use and cognitive deficits: what is the nature of the association?Pope HG Jr, Gruber AJ, Hudson JI, Cohane G, Huestis MA, Yurgelun-Todd D.
Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, McLean Hospital, 115 Mill Street, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. pope@mclean.harvard.edu

RESULTS: The 69 early-onset users (who began smoking before age 17) differed significantly from both the 53 late-onset users (who began smoking at age 17 or later) and from the 87 controls on several measures, most notably verbal IQ (VIQ).
CONCLUSIONS: Early-onset cannabis users exhibit poorer cognitive performance than late-onset users or control subjects, especially in VIQ.


Bang, multiple Harvard studies.

Lol, dude no need to call names, perhaps you misuderstood the tone of my post, which wasnt meant to be offensive. But dont call me something you wouldnt say to my face im not an idiot or uneducated, and i think you would have a serious problem if such things were said in person.

Anyway, my point was to dispute that marijuana has NONREVERSABLE negative effects, something which almost every recent study backs up. The problem with previous studies is that thay didnt ensure that the subjects werent using other drugs as well, or had been using them in the past. Obviously, if a guy smokes crack and smokes weed too, hes going to have some problems, but weed isnt the causal factor.

Anyway bro, you dont need to respond to me, i actually dont want to talk to you anymore, but like i said dont call me anything that you wouldnt say to my face

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12/8/2006  1:43 PM
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/166/7/887?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1025853946146_44&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=cmaj

"Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults"

the fact of the matter is you can find a study backing up pretty much anything you want.

through trial and error i can say that weed doesn't have the negative side effects one would presume, and certainly not what some of the 'harvard' studies prove (f-harvard by the way, those guys are a bunch of pansies anyway -- then again i go to BC so there is some personal bias)
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12/8/2006  1:46 PM
the fact of the matter is you can find a study backing up pretty much anything you want

That is probably the only thing that we prove in this thread. And if all Harvard grads are like this guy, who feels free to sling insults through his computer while flexing his internet muscles, then i agree with you, F Harvard.
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12/8/2006  2:05 PM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by izybx:
Another recent study from our laboratory ... found virtually no significant differences between 108 heavy cannabis users and 72 controls -- screened to exclude those with current psychiatric disorders, medication use, or any history of significant use of other drugs or alcohol -- on a battery of ten neuropsychological tests after 28 days of supervised abstinence from the drug," he said.

Bang, harvard study.
NO BRAIN DAMAGE SEEN IN MARIJUANA-EXPOSED MONKEYS
California NORML Reports, April 1992


Two new scientific studies have failed to find evidence of brain damage in monkeys exposed to marijuana, undercutting claims that marijuana causes brain damage in humans.

The studies were conducted by two independent research groups. The first, conducted by Dr. William Slikker, Jr. and others at the National Center for Toxicological Research in Arkansas examined some 64 rhesus monkeys, half of which were exposed to daily or weekly doses of marijuana smoke for a year. The other, by Gordon T. Pryor and Charles Rebert at SRI International in Menlo Park, California, which is still unpublished, looked at over 30 rhesus monkeys that had inhaled marijuana one to three times a day over periods of 6 to 12 months. Neither study found evidence of structural or neurochemical changes in the brains of the monkeys when examined a few months after cessation of smoking.

The new results cast doubt on earlier studies purporting to show brain damage in animals. The most famous of these was a study by Dr. Robert Heath, who claimed to find brain damage in three monkeys heavily exposed to cannabis. Heath's results failed to win general acceptance in the scientific community because of the small number of subjects, questionable controls, and heavy doses.

Bang another one.

[Edited by - izybx on 12-08-2006 10:19 AM]

Every once in a while, you stick your foot so far down your mouth it rips you a new ass hole. Thats what you just did. Congratulations.

First of all, I went to Harvard medical school, so the irony here is quite entertaining. I don't want to embarass you, but since you were uneducated and rude enough to make the statement you made, I feel obligated to throw some articles your way. Some are from Harvard. Some are from Hopkins for good measure.

To thoroughly convince you of your idiocy, the last two are from your favorite Harvard researcher, Harrison Pope, who recently has changed his tune quite a bit. Especially look at the last article by Dr. Pope.

For those actually interested in the research, Pope's initial studies were retrospective reviews using arbitrary neurological tests - both the choice of primary outcomes and confounding variables were highly questionable. The gold standard for clinical research is a prospective interventional study.

Here are a plethora of articles demonstrating long-term effects of marijuana use:

1. Dose-related neurocognitive effects of marijuana use.Bolla KI, Brown K, Eldreth D, Tate K, Cadet JL.
Department of Neurology, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Hopkins Bayview Research Campus, Baltimore, MD 21224, USA. kbolla@jhmi.edu


CONCLUSIONS: Very heavy use of marijuana is associated with persistent decrements in neurocognitive performance even after 28 days of abstinence.

2. Solowij N, Stephens RS, Roffman RA, Babor T, Kadden R, Miller M, Christiansen K, McRee B, Vendetti J; Marijuana Treatment Project Research Group.
National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, University of New South Wales, Sydney, NSW 2052, Australia. n.solowij@unsw.edu.au

CONCLUSIONS: These results confirm that long-term heavy cannabis users show impairments in memory and attention that endure beyond the period of intoxication and worsen with increasing years of regular cannabis use.

3. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 1996 Nov;53(11):1051-7. Links
Cognitive correlates of long-term cannabis use in Costa Rican men.Fletcher JM, Page JB, Francis DJ, Copeland K, Naus MJ, Davis CM, Morris R, Krauskopf D, Satz P.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Texas-Houston Medical School, USA.

CONCLUSION: Long-term cannabis use was associated with disruption of short-term memory, working memory, and attentional skills in older long-term cannabis users.

4. Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2006 Apr;185(3):358-68. Epub 2006 Mar 7. Links
Long-term effects of frequent cannabis use on working memory and attention: an fMRI study.Jager G, Kahn RS, Van Den Brink W, Van Ree JM, Ramsey NF.
Rudolf Magnus Institute of Neuroscience, Department of Psychiatry, A.01.126, University Medical Center, Heidelberglaan 100, 3584 CX, Utrecht, The Netherlands. gjager@umcutrecht.nl

Conclusions: For working memory, a more specific region-of-interest analysis showed that, in comparison to the controls, cannabis users displayed a significant alteration in brain activity in the left superior parietal cortex.

5. Brain Res Cogn Brain Res. 2005 Apr;23(1):107-18. Links
Neuroimaging of marijuana smokers during inhibitory processing: a pilot investigation.Gruber SA, Yurgelun-Todd DA.
Cognitive Neuroimaging Laboratory, Brain Imaging Center, McLean Hospital, Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. gryber@mclean.harvard.edu

Conclusions: Findings from this study are consistent with the notion that substance abusers demonstrate evidence of altered frontal neural function during the performance of tasks that involve inhibition and performance monitoring, which may affect the ability to make decisions.

6. Exp Clin Psychopharmacol. 2006 Nov;14(4):422-8. Links
Altered regional blood volume in chronic cannabis smokers.Sneider JT, Pope HG Jr, Silveri MM, Simpson NS, Gruber SA, Yurgelun-Todd DA.
Cognitive Neuroimaging Laboratory, Brain Imaging Center, McLean Hospital, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. jtsneider@mclean.harvard.edu

Results: Cannabis users demonstrated significantly increased blood volumes in the right frontal area (p < .05), in the left temporal area (p < .005), and in the cerebellum (p < .005) relative to comparison subjects.

7. Drug Alcohol Depend. 2003 Apr 1;69(3):303-10. Links
Early-onset cannabis use and cognitive deficits: what is the nature of the association?Pope HG Jr, Gruber AJ, Hudson JI, Cohane G, Huestis MA, Yurgelun-Todd D.
Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, McLean Hospital, 115 Mill Street, Belmont, MA 02478, USA. pope@mclean.harvard.edu

RESULTS: The 69 early-onset users (who began smoking before age 17) differed significantly from both the 53 late-onset users (who began smoking at age 17 or later) and from the 87 controls on several measures, most notably verbal IQ (VIQ).
CONCLUSIONS: Early-onset cannabis users exhibit poorer cognitive performance than late-onset users or control subjects, especially in VIQ.


Bang, multiple Harvard studies.

Lol, dude no need to call names, perhaps you misuderstood the tone of my post, which wasnt meant to be offensive. But dont call me something you wouldnt say to my face im not an idiot or uneducated, and i think you would have a serious problem if such things were said in person.

Anyway, my point was to dispute that marijuana has NONREVERSABLE negative effects, something which almost every recent study backs up. The problem with previous studies is that thay didnt ensure that the subjects werent using other drugs as well, or had been using them in the past. Obviously, if a guy smokes crack and smokes weed too, hes going to have some problems, but weed isnt the causal factor.

Anyway bro, you dont need to respond to me, i actually dont want to talk to you anymore, but like i said dont call me anything that you wouldnt say to my face

Telling me to go read and try a google search wasn't offensive? I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Even if you were high. Believe me.

Those studies address the issue of irreversibility if you look carefully - 28 days is a lenient time span. Are you expecting a miracle after months/years? At best, marginal recovery is expected after that duration of time. And, long-term, some persistent and unforeseen deficits in patients are likely.
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Posted by BigSm00th:

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/166/7/887?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1025853946146_44&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=cmaj

"Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults"

the fact of the matter is you can find a study backing up pretty much anything you want.

through trial and error i can say that weed doesn't have the negative side effects one would presume, and certainly not what some of the 'harvard' studies prove (f-harvard by the way, those guys are a bunch of pansies anyway -- then again i go to BC so there is some personal bias)

There are some HUGE flaws in that longitudinal study. Look at the average pre-teen IQ scores - that initial sample is heavily biased even if you're aiming to look at IQ differential. An 8 point average starting difference in IQs between non-users and former users? Depending on how you think IQ's develop and considering the wide time span (9-12) of the initial measurement (the average pre-teen age isn't even given for each group), that data is practically meaningless. There are also only 2 points of measurement - which makes their baseline even more questionable.



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Telling me to go read and try a google search wasn't offensive? I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Even if you were high. Believe me

Lol telling you to do a google search WAS OFFENSIVE?!?!?! Lol dude, you are very thin skinned. I guess I was disrespecting myself when i used Google to find the studies I originally posted. After all, everybody knows that to use google you have to be stupid. I guess you Ivy League grads use Yahoo. And byt he way, I dont smoke, and havent since high school. Unlike rich kids who go to ivy league schools, i had to join the army to pay for my education instead of asking mommy and daddy for tuition. And in the infantry there are a lot od drug tests. And now as a cop (tho I dont go to acadamy for three weeks) i doubt my reefer smoking days will see a comeback. And dude, I would say anything that I said on the internet to your face. Unlike you, I dont call names through the safety of a computer screen. I think Ive called MS "silly" a few times (tho I respect him and to be honest his posts have a lot more substance than mine,although we usually disagree) Ive had 500+ posts here since i joined 7 weeks ago, and I never attack other posters and sling insults, and i expect the same from others.

You on the otherhand, seem to think you can call other people uneducated and an idiot because they asked you to google something. You may feel high and might Mr. Harvard grad, but i have news for you, the only reason you can go to harvard is because you were born rich, and dont think you can look down on people on a KNICKS FORUM because of it. I graduated from Bronx High School of Science near the top of my class, and got a 1510 on my SATs, but unlike some i cant afford 50k a year to go ivy league, and if the people who go there are SNOBS like you, then im glad i didnt.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.
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Posted by izybx:
Telling me to go read and try a google search wasn't offensive? I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Even if you were high. Believe me

Lol telling you to do a google search WAS OFFENSIVE?!?!?! Lol dude, you are very thin skinned. I guess I was disrespecting myself when i used Google to find the studies I originally posted. After all, everybody knows that to use google you have to be stupid. I guess you Ivy League grads use Yahoo. And byt he way, I dont smoke, and havent since high school. Unlike rich kids who go to ivy league schools, i had to join the army to pay for my education instead of asking mommy and daddy for tuition. And in the infantry there are a lot od drug tests. And now as a cop (tho I dont go to acadamy for three weeks) i doubt my reefer smoking days will see a comeback. And dude, I would say anything that I said on the internet to your face. Unlike you, I dont call names through the safety of a computer screen. I think Ive called MS "silly" a few times (tho I respect him and to be honest his posts have a lot more substance than mine,although we usually disagree) Ive had 500+ posts here since i joined 7 weeks ago, and I never attack other posters and sling insults, and i expect the same from others.

You on the otherhand, seem to think you can call other people uneducated and an idiot because they asked you to google something. You may feel high and might Mr. Harvard grad, but i have news for you, the only reason you can go to harvard is because you were born rich, and dont think you can look down on people on a KNICKS FORUM because of it. I graduated from Bronx High School of Science near the top of my class, and got a 1510 on my SATs, but unlike some i cant afford 50k a year to go ivy league, and if the people who go there are SNOBS like you, then im glad i didnt.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.

Nice.
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Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by izybx:
Telling me to go read and try a google search wasn't offensive? I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Even if you were high. Believe me

Lol telling you to do a google search WAS OFFENSIVE?!?!?! Lol dude, you are very thin skinned. I guess I was disrespecting myself when i used Google to find the studies I originally posted. After all, everybody knows that to use google you have to be stupid. I guess you Ivy League grads use Yahoo. And byt he way, I dont smoke, and havent since high school. Unlike rich kids who go to ivy league schools, i had to join the army to pay for my education instead of asking mommy and daddy for tuition. And in the infantry there are a lot od drug tests. And now as a cop (tho I dont go to acadamy for three weeks) i doubt my reefer smoking days will see a comeback. And dude, I would say anything that I said on the internet to your face. Unlike you, I dont call names through the safety of a computer screen. I think Ive called MS "silly" a few times (tho I respect him and to be honest his posts have a lot more substance than mine,although we usually disagree) Ive had 500+ posts here since i joined 7 weeks ago, and I never attack other posters and sling insults, and i expect the same from others.

You on the otherhand, seem to think you can call other people uneducated and an idiot because they asked you to google something. You may feel high and might Mr. Harvard grad, but i have news for you, the only reason you can go to harvard is because you were born rich, and dont think you can look down on people on a KNICKS FORUM because of it. I graduated from Bronx High School of Science near the top of my class, and got a 1510 on my SATs, but unlike some i cant afford 50k a year to go ivy league, and if the people who go there are SNOBS like you, then im glad i didnt.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.

Nice.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.

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Posted by izybx:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by izybx:
Telling me to go read and try a google search wasn't offensive? I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Even if you were high. Believe me

Lol telling you to do a google search WAS OFFENSIVE?!?!?! Lol dude, you are very thin skinned. I guess I was disrespecting myself when i used Google to find the studies I originally posted. After all, everybody knows that to use google you have to be stupid. I guess you Ivy League grads use Yahoo. And byt he way, I dont smoke, and havent since high school. Unlike rich kids who go to ivy league schools, i had to join the army to pay for my education instead of asking mommy and daddy for tuition. And in the infantry there are a lot od drug tests. And now as a cop (tho I dont go to acadamy for three weeks) i doubt my reefer smoking days will see a comeback. And dude, I would say anything that I said on the internet to your face. Unlike you, I dont call names through the safety of a computer screen. I think Ive called MS "silly" a few times (tho I respect him and to be honest his posts have a lot more substance than mine,although we usually disagree) Ive had 500+ posts here since i joined 7 weeks ago, and I never attack other posters and sling insults, and i expect the same from others.

You on the otherhand, seem to think you can call other people uneducated and an idiot because they asked you to google something. You may feel high and might Mr. Harvard grad, but i have news for you, the only reason you can go to harvard is because you were born rich, and dont think you can look down on people on a KNICKS FORUM because of it. I graduated from Bronx High School of Science near the top of my class, and got a 1510 on my SATs, but unlike some i cant afford 50k a year to go ivy league, and if the people who go there are SNOBS like you, then im glad i didnt.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.

Nice.

Do me a favor tough guy, do not respond to any of my posts on any thread, if i ever see you at a UK get together do not say a word to me. I am officially offended by you and your holier than tho attitude Mr internet muscles. And maybe if were both lucky well have the opportunity to see if you would in fact insult in me in person. I would be willing to bet you wouldnt have the cojones.

Lets get this straight - you tell me I need to try reading and start parading your SAT score on the forum and... I'M the snob. Ok. Looking forward to meeting you at the next UK get together.
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12/8/2006  3:27 PM
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12/8/2006  3:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Drugs kill Forum Friendships!

Its LB's fault.
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12/8/2006  3:57 PM
Lets get this straight - you tell me I need to try reading and start parading your SAT score on the forum and... I'M the snob. Ok. Looking forward to meeting you at the next UK get together.

Bro I was responding to you saying I was uneducated and an idiot. You are really starting to piss me off. Im really going to try to not make threats on the forum. Im a grown man and Ill try to act like one. You got to the games? I have season tix. Im going to puerto rico from sat. to sat. but ill be back on the 16th. I sit in section 409 in the very back. Worst seat in the house. Come over and say hi. I always wear a blue LA fitted hat to the games (only blue hat I have) I know you wont come to the next get together, but ill try to be there.

Lol this is stupid. You know if you did see me youre just going to apologize. Internet muscles. Everybody is a tough guy. I tell you what tho. Dont come up to me with anything but an apology. Me and you officially have beef old man.
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12/8/2006  3:58 PM
Martin just lock this thread its starting to piss me off
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12/8/2006  3:59 PM
This is ridiculous.... lol.
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12/8/2006  4:00 PM
It really is. I know im making a fool of myself but i just cant help it...i really wasnt trying to be insulting in my OP either, dude is just a jerk
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Posted by izybx:

Martin just lock this thread its starting to piss me off

move along man. Time to focus on another thread.

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