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What Center In The NBA Would You Rather Have Instead Of Curry For The Next 7yrs?
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NJK
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12/5/2006  10:56 PM
I would rather have Dwight Howard. He seems to be growing at a rate that will out do Ming Yao in the future (both will be dominant).

If Greg Olden was in the NBA; I'd say him to; because it looks like he'll be the type of player to hone his skills and be a better rounded player than Curry.

Other than that... if Curry maintains his current pace to the point he picks up good habits and add it to his game (such as hustle, defending, and intensified rebounding); then I'll be satisfied with Curry patrolling the paint for the Knicks in comparison to other centers in the league; but I don't want him to be our best player. Just a top 5 center.
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12/5/2006  11:01 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:

I cant wait to hear some of these remarks but I would say without a doubt--Howard,Ming. (Okafor is really a PF). Probably--Okur. Maybe/Maybe Not--J O'Neal(28yrs old), Dalembert,Bynum ,Bogut,Kristic,Kamen.

So IMO only 2 definites and 1 likely. Not saying Curry is great yet but as far as a young power center he is making considerable strides. As he keeps playing more minutes his stamina will increase and really we need his rebounding to improve. Again he just turned 24 yrs old.!!


Im glad Curry is improving and I hope he keeps it up--for God's sakes Knick fans need him to stay consistent. But he has had periods of play like this--so it's up to Eddy to continue.

When any person here actually gets to see Greg Oden play you will see hes is the best big man on the planet Earth. He's a Shaq on one side and Bill Russell on the other.















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12/5/2006  11:23 PM
You would take Jackie Butler, who hasn't done a thing for the Spurs this year, yet I am to respect your basketball knowledge?
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12/5/2006  11:28 PM
Shareef Abdur-Rahim? LOL when did he become a center?
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/5/2006  11:54 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BigRedDog:

I think you are getting away from the question--who( 1 player) would you rather have as your center for the next 7 yrs over Curry? which player would you trade Curry for in a 1-1 trade to play center instead of Curry?

This will make the list a bit shorter to remove the old and damaged dudes:

Nenad Krstic
Samuel Dalembert
Jorge Garbajosa
Chris Bosh (PF but I wull take him over Curry)
Ben Wallace
Andrew Bogut
Rasheed Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic
Yao Ming
Tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Mehmet Okur
Carlos Boozer
Andris Biedrins
Andrew Bynum


Oh come on :( Some of those Guys I could understand, but really now. The NEXT SEVEN YEARS!!! Some of those guys haven't done a thing to be so high on them. Dalembert, Garbojosa, Biedrins? Please! Some of the guys won't be around long enough to be included in the argument. Others are just silly since they are GREAT players who are on the Top level of the game.

Bynum has shown nice progress, but he's got to continue to develop.
Bogut is a nice player, but I just don't see him ever being dominant in any way. He's a very solid C tho.
Emeka is a solid player on both ends of the floor, no problem if someone took him over Curry.
Krstic is a nice offensive player, but i'm not losing sleep thinking of how to stop him.
Boozer is a great player I can see someone taking him over Curry.
Okur is a solid player, but again i'm not losing sleep thinking about him killing my frontcourt in the paint.
Milicic why would you even put in on your list?
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12/6/2006  1:23 AM
Damn, the hate will not go queitly into the night. I refuse to quote that nonsense, but Arkrud is smoking Rat turds with the list he came up with...........
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12/6/2006  1:27 AM
Ask the question again at the end of the season, because it's possible that Curry may better than everyone except Ming and Howard, but it's also possible that the past couple of weeks is an aberration.
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12/6/2006  1:29 AM
That's fair.............developing curry rigth now >>>>> then hoping that Oden comes out this season and we get the number one pick.

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12/6/2006  7:26 AM
Posted by Rich:

Ask the question again at the end of the season, because it's possible that Curry may better than everyone except Ming and Howard, but it's also possible that the past couple of weeks is an aberration.
its not an aberration. How many games have we won during his little 20ppg streak? Eddy has ALWAYS been able to score. Look at his FG% since he's been in the league. Putting the ball in the basket has never been a problem. Defense, rebounding and conditioning are the issue. Also consistancy. He beats up on scrubs but often when things dont go his way he mails it in for the night, or gets frustrated and commits offensive fouls. Ming and Howard are complete players, 2-way players that affect the game on both ends of the court.

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12/6/2006  8:29 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BigRedDog:

I think you are getting away from the question--who( 1 player) would you rather have as your center for the next 7 yrs over Curry? which player would you trade Curry for in a 1-1 trade to play center instead of Curry?

This will make the list a bit shorter to remove the old and damaged dudes:

Nenad Krstic
Samuel Dalembert
Jorge Garbajosa
Chris Bosh (PF but I wull take him over Curry)
Ben Wallace
Andrew Bogut
Rasheed Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic
Yao Ming
Tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Mehmet Okur
Carlos Boozer
Andris Biedrins
Andrew Bynum


Oh come on :( Some of those Guys I could understand, but really now. The NEXT SEVEN YEARS!!! Some of those guys haven't done a thing to be so high on them. Dalembert, Garbojosa, Biedrins? Please! Some of the guys won't be around long enough to be included in the argument. Others are just silly since they are GREAT players who are on the Top level of the game.

Bynum has shown nice progress, but he's got to continue to develop.
Bogut is a nice player, but I just don't see him ever being dominant in any way. He's a very solid C tho.
Emeka is a solid player on both ends of the floor, no problem if someone took him over Curry.
Krstic is a nice offensive player, but i'm not losing sleep thinking of how to stop him.
Boozer is a great player I can see someone taking him over Curry.
Okur is a solid player, but again i'm not losing sleep thinking about him killing my frontcourt in the paint.
Milicic why would you even put in on your list?



Okur is turning into a nice player- no, he is not in the paint, but he is averaging 15 & 8 and 2.2 assists. Good fit with a Utah team that has the best record right now in the NBA.
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12/6/2006  8:57 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Rich:

Ask the question again at the end of the season, because it's possible that Curry may better than everyone except Ming and Howard, but it's also possible that the past couple of weeks is an aberration.
its not an aberration. How many games have we won during his little 20ppg streak? Eddy has ALWAYS been able to score. Look at his FG% since he's been in the league. Putting the ball in the basket has never been a problem. Defense, rebounding and conditioning are the issue. Also consistancy. He beats up on scrubs but often when things dont go his way he mails it in for the night, or gets frustrated and commits offensive fouls. Ming and Howard are complete players, 2-way players that affect the game on both ends of the court.

very well said.
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12/6/2006  10:38 AM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BigRedDog:

I think you are getting away from the question--who( 1 player) would you rather have as your center for the next 7 yrs over Curry? which player would you trade Curry for in a 1-1 trade to play center instead of Curry?

This will make the list a bit shorter to remove the old and damaged dudes:

Nenad Krstic
Samuel Dalembert
Jorge Garbajosa
Chris Bosh (PF but I wull take him over Curry)
Ben Wallace
Andrew Bogut
Rasheed Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic
Yao Ming
Tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Mehmet Okur
Carlos Boozer
Andris Biedrins
Andrew Bynum

lots of PFs here, also lots of guys that you think will be playing in 7 years like
tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Tasheed Wallace
Ben Wallace

then there are some guys you listed who just suck:
Samuel Dalembert
Darko Millicic
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12/6/2006  10:50 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BigRedDog:

I think you are getting away from the question--who( 1 player) would you rather have as your center for the next 7 yrs over Curry? which player would you trade Curry for in a 1-1 trade to play center instead of Curry?

This will make the list a bit shorter to remove the old and damaged dudes:

Nenad Krstic
Samuel Dalembert
Jorge Garbajosa
Chris Bosh (PF but I wull take him over Curry)
Ben Wallace
Andrew Bogut
Rasheed Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic
Yao Ming
Tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Mehmet Okur
Carlos Boozer
Andris Biedrins
Andrew Bynum

lots of PFs here, also lots of guys that you think will be playing in 7 years like
tim Duncan
Marcus Camby
Tasheed Wallace
Ben Wallace

then there are some guys you listed who just suck:
Samuel Dalembert
Darko Millicic

What is you definition of Center and why Curry is fit into it and others 6'10" guys are not?
About the last 2 sucks Curry also sucks time afrer time. Delambert is at list playing defense and rebounds consistantly
And I will take Tim, Sheed, Ben, or Marcus over Curry even if they will play 3 years not 7. Curry is not deserving to be mention in one sentence with all this 4 players. He has a lot of work to do to get even close.
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12/6/2006  11:57 AM
Usually A Center is a player who can hold his own in the paint against the biggest Strongest players on the other team. He can post up those players as well. Rebound against those players and hopefully block shots or at least intimidate those venturing into the paint. Shaq is a prototypical Center. These guys usually don't fit into the mold of a PF, who is a bit more mobile. Yao and Big Z are pure Centers. Now there are some guys who are able to play both Center and PF.

Curry is still getting his game together, but you can't kill him for not being Duncan or even Marcus. He has other strengths. Curry is just now starting to better utilize his girth. He's been much better lately in pinning his defender and also not bowling them over. The way he's playing now will serve him well as he goes along in his career. I see only Yao as a player who can actually defend Curry's game right now. Curry would have to make adjustments to score against Yao, cuz for a change he's going against someone who actually makes him look small. He can't just flip a shot up over Yao. He will have to use more movement against Yao. Try to take him off the dribble and use his jumper against him from time to time. He has to learn how to come up under Yao's arm's and draw fouls too.
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12/6/2006  1:04 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Usually A Center is a player who can hold his own in the paint against the biggest Strongest players on the other team. He can post up those players as well. Rebound against those players and hopefully block shots or at least intimidate those venturing into the paint. Shaq is a prototypical Center. These guys usually don't fit into the mold of a PF, who is a bit more mobile. Yao and Big Z are pure Centers. Now there are some guys who are able to play both Center and PF.

Curry is still getting his game together, but you can't kill him for not being Duncan or even Marcus. He has other strengths. Curry is just now starting to better utilize his girth. He's been much better lately in pinning his defender and also not bowling them over. The way he's playing now will serve him well as he goes along in his career. I see only Yao as a player who can actually defend Curry's game right now. Curry would have to make adjustments to score against Yao, cuz for a change he's going against someone who actually makes him look small. He can't just flip a shot up over Yao. He will have to use more movement against Yao. Try to take him off the dribble and use his jumper against him from time to time. He has to learn how to come up under Yao's arm's and draw fouls too.

I don't understand why saying Curry needs to work on his defense is seen as killing him for not being Duncan, Yao, Marcus or whoever. It just is what it is. He needs to work on his D.
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12/6/2006  2:40 PM
Knicks aint getting Oden. Please don't start that mess up.
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12/6/2006  3:54 PM
If the time frame is 7 years, the only guys I'd take over Curry:

Short Shelf Life, but can make a winner quickly:
Duncan - I think he still has enough left for 3-4 high level seasons, though he's got a lot of miles on him. He could have a similar winning effect on a team that Shaq provides.

Kevin Garnett - a lot of miles too, not truly a center... but great all-around talent. Good for another 3-4 seasons (not the duration).

Long term solutions:
Yao Ming - he's simply the best center in the game, though I'd argue that he's not as dominant (yet) as the top guns of the previous era: Ewing/Hakeem/Admiral. He's still young and improving.

Dirk Nowitzki - all-world offensive talent. Not as good as Duncan/Garnett defensively... but can score from anywhere on the court.

Dwight Howard - Excellent rebounder, high percentage scorer at a very young age. Nice tools and potential, but it's a tad early to tell whether he really has a nose for being a dominant offensive player.

On the Bubble:
Jermaine O'Neal - No heart, injury prone, questionable leadership skills & passing. I'd hold on to him on a fantasy team for his stats, but he demands the ball too much and isn't a high % player.

Okafor - He's kind of small... but he's a more complete player than Curry (already an elite defender at the position). Some injury questions, but maybe next year he'll be on the definite "yes" list (Curry can improve too...).

Amare Stoudemire - questions about his chronic knee issues make him a tough sell. Who knows if he's truly recovered or not.

Tyson Chandler - He's kind of like a younger version of Marcus Camby. He has the potential to be a lot more like Dwight Howard... I don't know.
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12/6/2006  3:59 PM
Nenad Krstic No
Samuel Dalembert No
Jorge Garbajosa Are you kidding? LOL
Chris Bosh Not a center
Ben Wallace No
Andrew Bogut No
Rasheed Wallace Not a center
Jermaine O'Neal Yes
Emeka Okafor Yes
Darko Milicic Not now
Yao Ming Yes
Tim Duncan Not a center and wont be playing in 7 years
Marcus Camby Not in 7 years
Mehmet Okur No
Carlos Boozer Not a center
Andris Biedrins No
Andrew Bynum Maybe
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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