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In the wake of all the threads that have been created recently about Eddy's scoring(which has been fantastic of late) is it enough for you that he scores points but doesn't do other things that centers are supposed to do? Things such as rebound, block shots, provide man to man defense as well as help defense, which is absolutely killing the Knicks. Although Eddy is scoring a ton of points, his presence on the court seems to be nullified because of his poor defensive habits and lack of effort on the defensive end. This is not a poll to bring down Eddy Curry, I'm just curious of the results, since it has been a hot topic on this forum lately and it's been widely debated by all who have participated.
Eddy's scoring is enough for me and his defense does not worry me
I don't care how many points Eddy scores, if he's not playing defense it's worthless
Who cares we're still losing games
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12/4/2006  8:28 PM
Who in their right mind will say they don't want Eddy to play defense at all?
I think the first option means the voter accepts Eddy's level of defense. (They're not worried about it or happy with it.) I don't think it means they don't care about his defense. It's more like they have a neutral evaluation of it.
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12/4/2006  8:30 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by TMS:

how about putting an option that says "Eddy's offensive improvement this year is a good sign, hopefully he develops the other areas of his game in the coming years"... then i can vote on your poll too.
exactly!! this is ridiculous. Who in their right mind will say they don't want Eddy to play defense at all? Everyone here is saying that he will improve and will show steady improvement. Some people are like anchors on foxnews. Fair and balanced? I'm going to wait for an option liked you said before I vote.

Again, here you are being sensitive as hell. The first option says you like what Eddy is doing and the defense he is providing. What you're seeing which tells you that it's negative is beyond me.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-04-2006 8:31 PM]
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12/4/2006  8:39 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Who in their right mind will say they don't want Eddy to play defense at all?
I think the first option means the voter accepts Eddy's level of defense. (They're not worried about it or happy with it.) I don't think it means they don't care about his defense. It's more like they have a neutral evaluation of it.

it didnt look like he would ever be able to dominate consistently on offensive and now he is so you dont have to accept that the rest of his game will never improve because more than likely it will. My problem with Curry was that he would never be an elite frontcourt player because of his inconsistency, weight problems and constantly being in foul trouble because of it. He doesn't even get in foul trouble as much anymore! So I'm beginning to believe that one step at a time he might actually become the franchise player/go to guy we desperately need.

Still need to add better pieces like a shooter & a rugged PF/C who can blocks shots for the time being. I still hate the fact that we gave up 2 unprotected picks for no reason! I'm estatic about having Curry on the team but image havING Tyrus playing next to him, blocking shots, rebounding and shutting down opposing bigs. DAMN U ISIAH!!!!!!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-04-2006 8:42 PM]
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12/4/2006  8:42 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Again, here you are being sensitive as hell. The first option says you like what Eddy is doing and the defense he is providing. What you're seeing which tells you that it's negative is beyond me.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-04-2006 8:31 PM]
Dude, just because I don't reply in one thread to you calling me sensitive does not mean I am being sensitive. Am I the only person that thinks your poll is unfair? No! There are others. Are we all being sensitive? Consider what they are saying before pointing fingers. Maybe your poll is unfair.

Your first option does not mean a damn thing to me. Do you see the difference between your 1st option and what TMS wrote? People are willing to give him a fuking chance. You want it to happen yesterday! Wake up man, he is not Duncan. Give this team a chance. I bet they will be much better with Jeffries back too which will make Eddy's defense look better.
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12/4/2006  8:44 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Who in their right mind will say they don't want Eddy to play defense at all?
I think the first option means the voter accepts Eddy's level of defense. (They're not worried about it or happy with it.) I don't think it means they don't care about his defense. It's more like they have a neutral evaluation of it.
I wish you would do the thinking for yourself and let others do their thinking for themselves. I am looking for the post where I asked clarification on the poll's options. I like what TMS said in his post. Once I see that as an option, I will decide to vote.
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12/4/2006  8:45 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

it didnt look like he would ever be able to dominate consistently on offensive and now he is so you dont have to accept that the rest of his game will never improve because more than likely it will. My problem with Curry was that he would never be an elite frontcourt player because of his inconsistency, weight problems and constantly being in foul trouble because of it. He doesn't even get in foul trouble as much anymore! So I'm beginning to believe that one step at a time he might actually become the franchise player/go to guy we desperately need.
Thank you guns! Good post. Finally you are beginning to believe. There is nothing wrong with being positive.
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12/4/2006  8:47 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Again, here you are being sensitive as hell. The first option says you like what Eddy is doing and the defense he is providing. What you're seeing which tells you that it's negative is beyond me.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-04-2006 8:31 PM]
Dude, just because I don't reply in one thread to you calling me sensitive does not mean I am being sensitive. Am I the only person that thinks your poll is unfair? No! There are others. Are we all being sensitive? Consider what they are saying before pointing fingers. Maybe your poll is unfair.

Your first option does not mean a damn thing to me. Do you see the difference between your 1st option and what TMS wrote? People are willing to give him a fuking chance. You want it to happen yesterday! Wake up man, he is not Duncan. Give this team a chance. I bet they will be much better with Jeffries back too which will make Eddy's defense look better.

Who isn't giving Curry a chance? Everyone is happy with his offense. His problems on defense are HUGE right now. Eddy's offense should be a huge plus for this team but the fact that he gives up just as many points as he scores, is pretty worrisome to me.

Just because people are voicing their opinion about Curry's defense does not mean they are negative, it means its something they want fixed.

"Eddy's scoring is enough and his defense does not worry me"

If you think Eddy will improve his defense then clearly it doesn't worry you which means you would choose option 1.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-04-2006 8:48 PM]
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12/4/2006  8:50 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Who in their right mind will say they don't want Eddy to play defense at all?
I think the first option means the voter accepts Eddy's level of defense. (They're not worried about it or happy with it.) I don't think it means they don't care about his defense. It's more like they have a neutral evaluation of it.
I wish you would do the thinking for yourself and let others do their thinking for themselves. I am looking for the post where I asked clarification on the poll's options. I like what TMS said in his post. Once I see that as an option, I will decide to vote.

Silver you're not going to see it as an option because you of all people should know you can't edit polls once they are created.
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12/4/2006  8:51 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Who isn't giving Curry a chance? Everyone is happy with his offense. His problems on defense are HUGE right now. Eddy's offense should be a huge plus for this team but the fact that he gives up just as many points as he scores, is pretty worrisome to me.
You aren't giving him a chance. You should wait and see which is not the same and settling.
"Eddy's scoring is enough and his defense does not worry me"

If you think Eddy will improve his defense then clearly it doesn't worry you which means you would choose option 1.
No. Thats not clear from any angle unless you expand on it the way you just did. Why don't you edit your post and change the first option to say what you said there?

"Eddy's scoring is enough and his defense does not worry me" is extremely misleading. "If you think eddy will improve his defense" is clear.
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12/4/2006  8:52 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Silver you're not going to see it as an option because you of all people should know you can't edit polls once they are created.
Ah..what you can do is edit the post right below it and bold face the change on the 1st option.
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12/4/2006  8:55 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:


You aren't giving him a chance. You should wait and see which is not the same and settling.

This is absolutely false. How am I not giving Eddy a chance? Just because I am stating that I want his defense to improve? That is called critiquing. If no one critiques you, you'll never know you have a problem with something. I'm very happy with Eddy's offense and I don't want him to stop there. That's all I am saying.
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12/4/2006  9:01 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm very happy with Eddy's offense and I don't want him to stop there. That's all I am saying.
DUDE! Your poll says "you don't care about his scoring, if he's not playing defense it's worthless." If you are trying to say you are "very happy with Eddy's offense" like you said in your post above, you made a very bad choice of words in your poll options.
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12/4/2006  9:05 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm very happy with Eddy's offense and I don't want him to stop there. That's all I am saying.
DUDE! Your poll says "you don't care about his scoring, if he's not playing defense it's worthless." If you are trying to say you are "very happy with Eddy's offense" like you said in your post above, you made a very bad choice of words in your poll options.

I am very happy that he's scoring but overall I am not happy with him as a player because he plays one end of the court, thus his scoring is worthless because he gives up as many points as he scores. Use wordplay all you want Nik.
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12/4/2006  9:10 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm very happy with Eddy's offense and I don't want him to stop there. That's all I am saying.
DUDE! Your poll says "you don't care about his scoring, if he's not playing defense it's worthless." If you are trying to say you are "very happy with Eddy's offense" like you said in your post above, you made a very bad choice of words in your poll options.

I am very happy that he's scoring but overall I am not happy with him as a player because he plays one end of the court, thus his scoring is worthless because he gives up as many points as he scores. Use wordplay all you want Nik.
Not playing on words bro. I just pointed out how you contradicted yourself. I'm surprised you don't/didn't see it. I still say what I have been saying on this thread, TMS has the best option on this poll that does not belong to him. BTW, Curry has 22 and 11. He wont average 20 and 10 this year but he will atleast 3 years from now when he will be 27. I bet he will have a very nice defensive game by then.
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12/4/2006  9:29 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm very happy with Eddy's offense and I don't want him to stop there. That's all I am saying.
DUDE! Your poll says "you don't care about his scoring, if he's not playing defense it's worthless." If you are trying to say you are "very happy with Eddy's offense" like you said in your post above, you made a very bad choice of words in your poll options.

I am very happy that he's scoring but overall I am not happy with him as a player because he plays one end of the court, thus his scoring is worthless because he gives up as many points as he scores. Use wordplay all you want Nik.
Not playing on words bro. I just pointed out how you contradicted yourself. I'm surprised you don't/didn't see it. I still say what I have been saying on this thread, TMS has the best option on this poll that does not belong to him. BTW, Curry has 22 and 11. He wont average 20 and 10 this year but he will atleast 3 years from now when he will be 27. I bet he will have a very nice defensive game by then.

I bet he might even have TWO nice defensive games between now and then!
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12/4/2006  9:57 PM
And just for the record. I apparently am not the only one who is worried about Eddy's defense. Kenny Smith "sometimes you just have to accept what a player doesn't do. You don't just become a shotblocker, it's not something you learn"

So sue me if that worries me.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-04-2006 9:58 PM]
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12/4/2006  10:11 PM
Why stop at arguing about Eddy Curry when you can argue about polls about Eddy Curry?
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12/4/2006  10:13 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

And just for the record. I apparently am not the only one who is worried about Eddy's defense. Kenny Smith "sometimes you just have to accept what a player doesn't do. You don't just become a shotblocker, it's not something you learn"
He was talking about shot blocking specifically. He was saying Eddy is not a natural shot blocker. I doubt he will say "sometimes you have to accept that a player will not play defense."
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12/4/2006  10:13 PM
Posted by eViL:

Why stop at arguing about Eddy Curry when you can argue about polls about Eddy Curry?
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12/4/2006  10:20 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by nyk4ever:

And just for the record. I apparently am not the only one who is worried about Eddy's defense. Kenny Smith "sometimes you just have to accept what a player doesn't do. You don't just become a shotblocker, it's not something you learn"
He was talking about shot blocking specifically. He was saying Eddy is not a natural shot blocker. I doubt he will say "sometimes you have to accept that a player will not play defense."

Eddy Curry also hasn't played defense and I didn't hear Kenny Smith saying he would be a great bet to improve it. That's all I'm saying.

Why is it such a god damn crime that I'm worried about his defense? Please tell me that right now.
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