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oohah
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11/27/2006  1:57 PM
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah

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11/27/2006  2:02 PM
Posted by oohah:
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah


Hey did you watch the Knicks the other night against the Bulls shoot their load again?

Down 20 at the beginning of the 4rth then cut the lead down to 5 with 2min left, a 2 possession game, and like you said Game OVAH!


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11/27/2006  2:06 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:
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Nets fans must be booing them something fierce.

NJ fans are the best in the world.

That's only in comparison to their pathetic neighbors in NY.

obviously
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11/27/2006  2:23 PM
yet according to ESPN's latest power rankings, we're the worst team in the league. despite blowing out three teams by 20+ points. how are we worse than Washington, whom we blew out by 20? or the Celts? or Miami at this point. ESPN sucks sh!t.
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11/27/2006  2:25 PM
Posted by oohah:
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah


yeah, I did...U'K-uaeda is probably the best way to put it ;)
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11/27/2006  2:37 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by oohah:
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah


yeah, I did...U'K-uaeda is probably the best way to put it ;)

Yeah, because comparing people on this board to the people responsible for 9/11 is the best way to put it.

Funny how the people who complain about the insults are more than happy to partake in them. Bunch of hypocrites.
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11/27/2006  2:39 PM
It doesn't matter to me what the rankings say. I've seen a couple now that have us dead last. From what i've seen with my own eyes, this team is capable of beating most of the teams in this league, with a few exceptions. It's mostly about getting this thing fixed with regard to our style of play. When we move and pass we win. In the 5 wins we avg'd 22 assists and in the 10 losses we avg'd 15 assists.

We have to get to the point where it's our default style of play to come out with more energy and teammwork. We are VERY much in this thing, even if we weren't in the East we'd still have a chance. 5 games under .500 this early in a season is never a death sentence. 7 of our 15 games have been against the Western Conference. 4 of those games came against top teams in SA and Houston. Take into consideration how tough our opening schedule is, we've done OK. Last year we had 14 games in the 1st month and this year 17 games, with 5 back to backs.

I know how much some of you hate these excuses, but not only have we had personnel issues, most notably Steph, but the schedule hasn't been easy on top of that. The pressure on all involved etc. This could've been much worse. I like our chances going forward. So many teams were picked to be CLEARLY better than us and from what i've seen we haven't even come close to mazxing out our potential and we're not much worse than these other teams. I'd say we have a great shot to be a playoff team.
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11/27/2006  2:47 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

Scary thought IMHO, but having low expectations is the norm and I'm of the norm.

When did that happen?

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11/27/2006  2:49 PM
nixluva, i'll have much higher hopes for this team & this franchise as a whole if Isiah's smart enough to unload Marbury by any means necessary... there really is no other explanation as to why this team just looks to play better & more in synch whenever he's not playing in my view

... maybe it's too much to lay the blame of this team's bad play entirely at his feet, i agree w/that, but the visual evidence seems to indicate that the team is better playing w/o him... whether the stats play witness to that or not, the energy level is visually different everytime he leaves the floor as opposed to when he's on the floor imo... who knows, it could very well be that his teammates have grown tired of his act & are now phasing him out of the offense altogether, & if that's the case, i'll say it's about damn time! but i think it's more of him just not knowing how to play effectively within a team concept unless he's dominating the ball on offense... funny how Steve Francis was able to acclimate himself for the most part into the role though, when they're essentially the same player w/very similar past histories over their playing careers.
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11/27/2006  3:03 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by oohah:
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah


yeah, I did...U'K-uaeda is probably the best way to put it ;)

Yeah, because comparing people on this board to the people responsible for 9/11 is the best way to put it.

Funny how the people who complain about the insults are more than happy to partake in them. Bunch of hypocrites.

Sorry if you took that as an insult. I can see how you might feel that it is, but I meant it more as a point about describing the seemingly 100% black or white manner in which everything appears to be seen from those that are the most anti-Isiah, etc.

I don't consider it to be hypocritical to use a label that describes the kind of fascist thinking I associate with some of those who are most critical. I am not 100% supportive of this team, nor do I take it that my view is absoulte and devine, as I have said over and over again, nor I suspect are some of the other so-called "kool-aid" drinkers. Where is the same kind of admission from the critics here? Non-existent for the most part. It's just Isiah sucks this, no exuses, period, and the rest of the one liner cliches that many sport fans like to use to vent their frustration and paint everything into a simple explanation...

kind of like Al-Q'uaeda...


Knick critics - It's ALL Isiah's fault he must perish
Al-Quaeda - It's ALL the "infadels" fault they must perish

I can use George Bush as an example instead if you prefer...

That's the closest you will get to a genuine insult from me, and you can check my record here. Compare to most of the critics, it ain't even a close with regards to hurling insults. The fact that you don't like the parallel, doesn't necessarily make the analogy any less true.

Honestly, it is an exaggeration, and a joke of sorts, as is the term UK Mafia, or Negative Nancy or whatever, but I can't help but think there is just a small ounce of truth to the comparison on a VERY un-serious level.
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11/27/2006  3:08 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by oohah:
I think the bigger concern for the UK Mafia is that if the Knicks make they playoffs that that is a greater indication of Isiah staying around for another year, which I figure will cause booing to come at tipoff instead of after the first run by the other team, or a few missing posters due to suicide or jailtime for a killing spree (or the assassination of Isiah).

Heh...you said it not me! But you might be on point! Anyways, I thought you said it was more like UK-Quaeda?



oohah


yeah, I did...U'K-uaeda is probably the best way to put it ;)

Yeah, because comparing people on this board to the people responsible for 9/11 is the best way to put it.

Funny how the people who complain about the insults are more than happy to partake in them. Bunch of hypocrites.

Sorry if you took that as an insult. I can see how you might feel that it is, but I meant it more as a point about describing the seemingly 100% black or white manner in which everything appears to be seen from those that are the most anti-Isiah, etc.

I don't consider it to be hypocritical to use a label that describes the kind of fascist thinking I associate with some of those who are most critical. I am not 100% supportive of this team, nor do I take it that my view is absoulte and devine, as I have said over and over again, nor I suspect are some of the other so-called "kool-aid" drinkers. Where is the same kind of admission from the critics here? Non-existent for the most part. It's just Isiah sucks this, no exuses, period, and the rest of the one liner cliches that many sport fans like to use to vent their frustration and paint everything into a simple explanation...

kind of like Al-Q'uaeda...


Knick critics - It's ALL Isiah's fault he must perish
Al-Quaeda - It's ALL the "infadels" fault they must perish

I can use George Bush as an example instead if you prefer...

That's the closest you will get to a genuine insult from me, and you can check my record here. Compare to most of the critics, it ain't even a close with regards to hurling insults. The fact that you don't like the parallel, doesn't necessarily make the analogy any less true.

Honestly, it is an exaggeration, and a joke of sorts, as is the term UK Mafia, or Negative Nancy or whatever, but I can't help but think there is just a small ounce of truth to the comparison on a VERY un-serious level.



oohah

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11/27/2006  3:12 PM
Posted by PresIke:

I can see how you might feel that it is, but I meant it more as a point about describing the seemingly 100% black or white manner in which everything appears to be seen from those that are the most anti-Isiah, etc.



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11/27/2006  3:22 PM
"It don't matter if you're black or white....heeeee...heeeee....whoooooooo!!"
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11/27/2006  3:28 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Honestly, it is an exaggeration, and a joke of sorts, as is the term UK Mafia, or Negative Nancy or whatever, but I can't help but think there is just a small ounce of truth to the comparison on a VERY un-serious level.

That's fine. But just so you know, some people around here don't take too kindly to joking around. They take things very very seriously.
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11/27/2006  3:41 PM
Posted by PresIke:

If you could believe it, even after being 5-10 we are only 1 game out of first. Of course there is a 3 way tie for 1st with the Celts, Nets & Sixers all at 5-8, and the Raps are 4-9, but if the Knicks can find an ounce of consistency here then maybe we could actually make the playoffs.

However, the East is playing so awful-mediocre, outside of Detroit and the Cavs, that it can't mean much, yet if you look at the Knicks compared to the rest of the conference, we have a chance.


true, but were also one game out of last place in the worst division of the nba.
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11/27/2006  3:49 PM
the east is absolute garbage. combine that with one of the better drafs this year (enabling more teams to start tanking), the knicks will be fighting for a playoff spot. the sad thing is that means we could be playing .400 bball and still be in the hunt.
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11/27/2006  3:57 PM
nowadays .400 is considered a winning season
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11/27/2006  4:10 PM
Hey, I'm not saying we're doing well kiddos, I'm just pointing out the half-glass full arguement is still plausible, no matter how bizzaro it might seem.

I'm not satisfied with the record, nor would I of seeing the team not show better signs of improvement as the season progresses, and Isiah stay. Just making the playoffs is probably over-rated, and I'd rather see the team make at least .500 but if the team fights and shows some gall I might be ok with 38-40 wins, considering the reality that we are probably stuck with Marbury, and pinning our hopes on an inconsistent guy like Curry who plays awful defense and does not block shots.
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11/27/2006  4:10 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

nowadays .400 is considered a winning season


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11/27/2006  5:56 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I like our chances going forward. So many teams were picked to be CLEARLY better than us and from what i've seen we haven't even come close to mazxing out our potential and we're not much worse than these other teams.


great, you expect us to play better. i we don't implode again we have a chance of that. but we have to get better while others stay the same for it to be meaningful. so of the teams around us which DON'T you think capable of playing better?

Jersey 5-8
miami 5-8
philly 5-8
chicago 4-9
toronto 4-9
washington 4-9
milwaukee 4-9

i think most of those teams are also struggling and capable of better ball, so it's worthwhile to note that we probably have to get better just to keep up.
Nets quietly lose 5th in a row, Knicks 1 game out of 1st place

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