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oohah
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11/20/2006  3:03 PM
Honestly.. this is why I for one wished you have met that night. We had guys like myself, DJ, Martin, HARDCOREKNICKSFAN, Evil, Marv, Elite, Wood, etc... and guys just hang. Yea we bust on each other but its just that.

Go back and read the thread for yourself. Nobody said anything offensive and you pretty much freaked out amigo.

That's funny fish because you seem to take it pretty personal and you hang onto things for a long time so you cannot even discuss the topic of a thread when it comes up for weeks at a time whe I am posting. Just stop and examine your behavior.

I see how quickly you lose it. Just imagine if there were 3-6 of me going at you the way guys go at me. Not talking basketball but trying to take stabs at you. I can handle it, I've shown that, and I am pretty sure you cannot the way you smolder for weeks on end.

Examine your behavior and try to be civil. I am not talking about simple joking around. There is a time when joking ends and you don't seem to be aware of it except when it comes to yourself.

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oohah
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11/20/2006  3:05 PM
ahhh... I just read that thread again. The responses you got were not what you desired, I get it. But there was nothing personal and the most offesive thing was some sarcasm. Then you kinda freaked on guys

You have never seen me freak. Seatsblue is simply always trying to run with a crowd and Isles has very little motiovation for posting except to get under people's skin.

I can handle it, I have been since I showed up here. But it should not be this way. And since Killa brought it up, I think we should try to make a change. We are all grownups and should be able to converse without forming gangs and constantly throwing out insults.

oohah

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11/20/2006  3:09 PM
Lets just keep it to sports. That whole thing with Bonn pissed me off. There was no reason to respond to every single one of his posts with "snit vomit" or "gay robot" bs. Someone says something about Crawford, keep it at that.

I know it gets annoying with people but the backlash does not fit.
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11/20/2006  3:10 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Killa4luv:

I think things have gone too far and there needs to be some STRICT rules set forth and enforced.
These rules really should be common sense, but since some people seem to be lacking in that area, maybe it needs to be spelled out for them.
1. No RACISM!!!!- Period. No it is not okay to call someone a nigger, even if it is in a roundabout way, using a chis rock sketch as a cover. It is not ok. That so many people saw that thread and chose to say nothing speakins volumes about the cowardice of many of you on this site. No it is not ok to say Arabs have contributed nothing to society. That is a racist or bigoted remark that has no basis in reality. No it is not okay to say any racist remark. PERIOD!!! When you see it you should challenge it, and I think Mods, should step in. Racism should not be tolerated at all.

2. No BOGOTRY!!! It is not ok to call someone a faggot, or to constantly make comments on their sexuality in a derogatory manner. A joke here or there should be fine as long as its good natured. But what went on with Bonn, for example, was totally unacceptable to me. A bunch of people constantly referring to him as a homosexual? Lets just say thats inappropriate and shouldn't happen.

This is what I propose should be enforced because its getting out of hand. Not only that, but many of these incidents involved the same people. I feel strongly that this needs to be addressed.

You are totally right Killa. I don't like to address the moderators about how they should run this forum but it seems that certain kinds of commentary that should be addressed is not.

Simrud is the worst of all. He never talks basketball, he just shows up to throw random insults out, degrade or threaten people, use derogatory racial terminology, etc. It always bewilders me that he is still allowed to post.

I know I get into some heated battles. If the mods want me to stop then I will. I have a rule not to throw the first blow and I stick to it. I'll try to do like Jesus and turn the other cheek. But I would hope they would stop the UK mafia from showing up and just throwing out insults and acting like douches (See my Jerome James thread I just created if you don't believe me.), and I promise I will be the most meticulously polite poster, as I already try to be with those that can converse in a civil manner.

As far as calling Bonn a faggot and why some think it is okay. It isn't. There is no justification. All of that is bullsh!t excuses. Bonn was no more obnoxious than the UK Mafia crew that came after him every time he posted. In fact he was much less obnoxious. Maybe once or twice is a joke, or every now and then, but a bunch of dudes circling him and calling him a fag is bullying plain and simple. I wonder if any of those guys would find it funny if it were happening to them or god forbid one of their kids or someone else they care about. I wonder how they would feel then? ANY JUSTIFICATION is inadequate and simply utter garbage. It was wrong and still is wrong.

So I am turning over a new leaf. I am not getting into heated battles, at least not personal ones. I want to be a positive force on this forum. I guess "I'll have to talk to the teacher", when the UK mafia shows up and tries to circle me like they did Bonn, like they did last night, like they are trying to do on the JJ thread I just started, like they did on the thread where simrud threatened me, etc.

I only hope there will be a response.

oohah

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11/20/2006  3:12 PM
Posted by oohah:
ahhh... I just read that thread again. The responses you got were not what you desired, I get it. But there was nothing personal and the most offesive thing was some sarcasm. Then you kinda freaked on guys

You have never seen me freak. Seatsblue is simply always trying to run with a crowd and Isles has very little motiovation for posting except to get under people's skin.

I can handle it, I have been since I showed up here. But it should not be this way. And since Killa brought it up, I think we should try to make a change. We are all grownups and should be able to converse without forming gangs and constantly throwing out insults.

oohah
clearly you cant handle it because of your responses. But OK.

Just dont tell dad, OK?
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11/20/2006  3:14 PM
Killa, I cant agree more.

You and me had a glorious bare-knuckle brawl at the Middle East thread, but that's the point of debate. I remember when Sim got completely out of hand in that thread, and I remember thinking that this is going a little too far. I cant remember if I posted it. If I didnt, I should have, but I remember talking to Martin at the time and mentioned it.

Point is, what was said in that thread was completely relevant to the debate at hand, and in any other environment or conversation, especially on a sports-related forum, has no place at all.

I missed the ni**er comment, and the other racist remark you mentioned, but that kind of thing has no place in ultimateknicks.com. I would hope that anyone saying something like that was being lighthearted, and simply went too far down a humorous thought process.

I suppose being a little considerate while posting should be on peoples minds, but we are all grown-ups, and we should all be able to defend ourselves if we feel a percieved slight. Anyone intentionally saying something racist shld of course be banned. Immediately. Theres no two ways about it. If you let that kind of thig start at all..... well, that way Realgm lies.

Overall, I think we all need to simmer down a little. The is UK.com remember?! We're family here. And family always pi$$es you off a little.

BTW, oohah. I agree that the Bonn thing got out of hand a few times, but Bonn really was his own mitigating circumstances, and honestly, there is no indication that Bonn even understood most of the sarcasm coming at him. And to be honest, some people hace bad days and come here and post irrationally sometimes. $hit happens. I cant really see what you flew off the handle about in your Jerome thread, but I guess we all have bad days.

Maybe we all just need to simmer down a little.


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11/20/2006  3:19 PM
Bonn was and is a gay robot. Nobody called him a "faggot.

GayRobot is a popular term.

Bonn labled himself. Its a long story. Very funny indeed.

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11/20/2006  3:21 PM
WWOD

Are you really going to play the victim?

I don't know what you are talking about. I am just stating how I will try to conduct myself going forth. Go back and re-read and you will see.

As far as playing the victim, I don't know what you mean. I am nobody's victim because I can defend myself, against you or you and the rest of UK Mafia no matter how much it angers you or the rest of UK Mafia.

However, is that really how we want to be? I observe you chasing me around just like you were a few weeks ago, not trying to be on topic, with no other purpose than to try to needle me. If I bother you that much, then you don't need to speak to me. Did you ever notice that I don't enter into conversations with you all last year or this summer until you stepped on =to my Frye thread? That's how I roll.

Like I said, I'm sorry that if my confidence in my opinion and ability to back what I am saying, and unwillingness to crumble for you pleasure disturbs you so much that you feel you have to seek me out to take shots at me. You have never seen me do this to you or any other poster. I have a heated exchange I let it go, and try not to speak to them, I don't seek them out for weeks on end. That is pretty poor behavior don't you think? I'll bet you have made excuses for it, but they are not good ones I am sure.

So examine your behavior and adjust if you care to, and I will examine my own.

oohah

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oohah
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11/20/2006  3:21 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by oohah:
ahhh... I just read that thread again. The responses you got were not what you desired, I get it. But there was nothing personal and the most offesive thing was some sarcasm. Then you kinda freaked on guys

You have never seen me freak. Seatsblue is simply always trying to run with a crowd and Isles has very little motiovation for posting except to get under people's skin.

I can handle it, I have been since I showed up here. But it should not be this way. And since Killa brought it up, I think we should try to make a change. We are all grownups and should be able to converse without forming gangs and constantly throwing out insults.

oohah
clearly you cant handle it because of your responses. But OK.

Just dont tell dad, OK?

See, more of the same. I am still looking for where you point out my doing what I complained about. I can't find it.

oohah


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oohah
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11/20/2006  3:25 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Bonn was and is a gay robot. Nobody called him a "faggot.

GayRobot is a popular term.

Bonn labled himself. Its a long story. Very funny indeed.

So he used a little self deprecating humor to defuse a situation or something like that and you beat the horse until it just becomes a disgusting insult? I am sure that you would have no problem with people calling you a gay robot or some other derogatory name every time you posted? Please don't split hairs, that is calling him a faggot, especially when you do it again and again.

Just put yourself in his place and try to treat him the way you would prefer to be treated. You need to know when the joke ends Nalod. You're supposed to be one of the elder statesman around here.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 20-11-2006 3:26 PM]
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11/20/2006  3:28 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by oohah:
ahhh... I just read that thread again. The responses you got were not what you desired, I get it. But there was nothing personal and the most offesive thing was some sarcasm. Then you kinda freaked on guys

You have never seen me freak. Seatsblue is simply always trying to run with a crowd and Isles has very little motiovation for posting except to get under people's skin.

I can handle it, I have been since I showed up here. But it should not be this way. And since Killa brought it up, I think we should try to make a change. We are all grownups and should be able to converse without forming gangs and constantly throwing out insults.

oohah
clearly you cant handle it because of your responses. But OK.

Just dont tell dad, OK?

See, more of the same. I am still looking for where you point out my doing what I complained about. I can't find it.

oohah
its in the Jerome James thread. And dude... you cried to the moderator that everyone was picking on you. Whats with you today?

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11/20/2006  3:29 PM
I think Andrew and Martin do a good job moderating their board. When things get out of hand they take care of it.

Can we all be a little more mature and lighten up a little bit? Yeah probably but I don't think things have reached a crisis point or anything close.

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11/20/2006  3:35 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I think Andrew and Martin do a good job moderating their board. When things get out of hand they take care of it.

Can we all be a little more mature and lighten up a little bit? Yeah probably but I don't think things have reached a crisis point or anything close.

UK Mafia

yeah...it's all about love here. and to prove it, here's isles and myself just hanging out...




and here's a picture of me bailing isles out of jail the night he decided that the "knicks experience" meant it was ok to run down to the court and touch a ny knicks city dancer:



and remember this night isles...oh the stories we could tell...



you see everybody, this is a place where we can make friends...
oohah
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11/20/2006  3:42 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by oohah:
ahhh... I just read that thread again. The responses you got were not what you desired, I get it. But there was nothing personal and the most offesive thing was some sarcasm. Then you kinda freaked on guys

You have never seen me freak. Seatsblue is simply always trying to run with a crowd and Isles has very little motiovation for posting except to get under people's skin.

I can handle it, I have been since I showed up here. But it should not be this way. And since Killa brought it up, I think we should try to make a change. We are all grownups and should be able to converse without forming gangs and constantly throwing out insults.

oohah
clearly you cant handle it because of your responses. But OK.

Just dont tell dad, OK?

See, more of the same. I am still looking for where you point out my doing what I complained about. I can't find it.

oohah
its in the Jerome James thread. And dude... you cried to the moderator that everyone was picking on you. Whats with you today?

Either I "Cry to the moderator" (more derogatory language) Or I cut loose on you, seatsblue, islesfan the rest of the loosely-knit UKM. I am tired of cutting loose on people and I don't think it should have to go there so often. It's tiresome. You may think I like to fight but nothing could be further from the truth. I did not join realgm for that reason and I lurked in this forum for year to make sure it could be a place for decent conversation.

And Killa created up this thread, and I think it is high-time someone did. That is what is with me today.

oohah

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11/20/2006  3:44 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by islesfan:

I think Andrew and Martin do a good job moderating their board. When things get out of hand they take care of it.

Can we all be a little more mature and lighten up a little bit? Yeah probably but I don't think things have reached a crisis point or anything close.

UK Mafia

yeah...it's all about love here. and to prove it, here's isles and myself just hanging out...




and here's a picture of me bailing isles out of jail the night he decided that the "knicks experience" meant it was ok to run down to the court and touch a ny knicks city dancer:



and remember this night isles...oh the stories we could tell...



you see everybody, this is a place where we can make friends...

Yeah, I remember that night. How can I not? She swore that she was a chick. If only I had grabbed down there instead.

That's classic stuff.
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11/20/2006  3:52 PM
Posted by oohah:

Either I "Cry to the moderator" (more derogatory language) Or I cut loose on you, seatsblue, islesfan the rest of the loosely-knit UKM. I am tired of cutting loose on people and I don't think it should have to go there so often. It's tiresome. You may think I like to fight but nothing could be further from the truth. I did not join realgm for that reason and I lurked in this forum for year to make sure it could be a place for decent conversation.

And Killa created up this thread, and I think it is high-time someone did. That is what is with me today.

oohah
I thought it wasnt derogatory if in response. And if you didnt like to fight you would have changed your behavior. What it appears like is what you really like and want is for people to agree with you. When they dont you get (insert non derogatory term).

You a big offender of everything your angry about, and yes I quoted specific instances. Take it as you will.

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11/20/2006  3:54 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by islesfan:

I think Andrew and Martin do a good job moderating their board. When things get out of hand they take care of it.

Can we all be a little more mature and lighten up a little bit? Yeah probably but I don't think things have reached a crisis point or anything close.

UK Mafia

yeah...it's all about love here. and to prove it, here's isles and myself just hanging out...




and here's a picture of me bailing isles out of jail the night he decided that the "knicks experience" meant it was ok to run down to the court and touch a ny knicks city dancer:



and remember this night isles...oh the stories we could tell...



you see everybody, this is a place where we can make friends...

This is hilarious!!!
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11/20/2006  3:59 PM
Did anybody actually read the post where I brought up the Chris Rock joke? He is black, and he is allowed to make black jokes. Killa if you were going to find a Jew making Jewish jokes and post it, I have no problem with that. Ever watched the Shappel Show, or Carlos Mencia? All they do is bust on their own race. Jewish standup comedians do the same thing.

Also, Killa, in the Middle Eastern thread, you just posted outright lies, and when I finally caught you red-handed on the Israel setting up settlements in Lebanon article you stopped posting cause your cover was blown. You had, have, and will probably always have an agenda when it comes to the Middle East. So do I. I respect your stand, but don't lie about it and pretend you are impartial. Enemies can be honored, why hide your true intentions?

Finally, hooha you responded to a one line comment I made about your posting style with a detailed personal attack. I gave you back some of your own medicine. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Finally about the Bonn thing, calling him gay was probably wrong, I never called him gay, but he was incredibly annoying, and I enjoyed Nalod destroying him every once in a while.

If I hurt anybody's feelings, I'm not sorry, if your feelings actually get hurt on an online forum, you have been lucky enough to have a sheltered life with no real problems.

Oh and for the stabbing comment, hooha suggested that he can take me or something like that, and that was a response to that, essentially you don't know me man, and you probably don't want to meet me either hoohah, so just squash it.
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oohah
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11/20/2006  3:59 PM
I thought it wasnt derogatory if in response.

So "cry to the moderator" was in response to what insult I made to you?
And if you didnt like to fight you would have changed your behavior. What it appears like is what you really like and want is for people to agree with you. When they dont you get (insert non derogatory term).

Simply untrue. I don't care if you agree or not. And I will chaneg my behavior. When you start throwing out the derogatory commentary as you cannot seem to stop doing, I guess I will "cry to the moderator" instead of cutting loose on you.
You a big offender of everything your angry about, and yes I quoted specific instances. Take it as you will.

If I was the biggest offender then you could find an instance of me jumping on threads with no purpose but to insult or needle. You could not find that, so intead you found me responding to such behavior. That was what you found. And even that I will stop doing. I'm gonna be like Marv. I have no doubt you and the UKM will try to test me.

oohah

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11/20/2006  4:00 PM
Posted by fishmike:

What it appears like is what you really like and want is for people to agree with you.

Quoted because it's true.
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