Posted by joec32033:

Posted by JesseDark:

Isiah's defense of Curry is exactly what coaches are suppose to do. Protect the team and protect the player. The alternative is to throw the player under the bus and we see how well that went last year.
Other examples of this is Pop defending Bowen down is San Antonio. Is he suppose to say, "yeah my player has borderline dirty tactics". No.
Today I read (hoopshype) Van Gundy is saying no McGrady hasn't lost a step and is as dangerous as always. Why is he saying this? Because it's protecting his team and McGrady. To want Isiah to do any less for his players is off base IMHO. We all want Curry to play up to his capabilities.

Not one of those coaches compared their player's to a legend of the team they play for, much less comparing him to guys who are all-stars on other teams.

Bowen is a 2 time champion and McGrady is still an elite player. There's nothing wrong with defending Curry. "Curry will be fine. He's still young but he'll be where we expect him to be real soon." What would have been wrong with saying that? Instead, a Piston comes into OUR HOUSE, brings in a crappy player and $hi*s on our team by comparing that crappy player to one of our top 2 players to play for the franchise.

Posted by joec32033:

This brought tears to my eyes.

LOL, the post/threads do increase after loses............ I know everybody is beating down Curry from every angle and it's easy to do right now(prediction= next there will a "how dare curry shake Ewings hand" thread), but I believe he will come threw. IT's a 82 game season... time will tell.

But to the point of the thread, when is a player not compared to the greats???? Marbury and Francis could be like Walt and Pearl or Dumars and Isiah, are things Isiah and even Brown said. Balkman reminds Isiah of Rodman and Artest. Pepople do it all the time, Hell there is a thread in here that says does balkman look like Scottie Pippen!!!! Why???? Because Pippen is someone people remember because he is an great. THe thread didn't ask, " Does balkman look like SAR" LOL.

Posted by Anji:

LOL, the post/threads do increase after loses............ I know everybody is beating down Curry from every angle and it's easy to do right now(prediction= next there will a "how dare curry shake Ewings hand" thread), but I believe he will come threw. IT's a 82 game season... time will tell.

But to the point of the thread, when is a player not compared to the greats???? Marbury and Francis could be like Walt and Pearl or Dumars and Isiah, are things Isiah and even Brown said. Balkman reminds Isiah of Rodman and Artest. Pepople do it all the time, Hell there is a thread in here that says does balkman look like Scottie Pippen!!!! Why???? Because Pippen is someone people remember because he is an great. THe thread didn't ask, " Does balkman look like SAR" LOL.

Walt and Francis were great players but they are not on the same level as guys like Willis and Ewing. In the Knicks hierarchy, Willis and Patrick are on the top and both personified the warrior mentality that exists in New York. I also think a big part is everything Ewing brought to this team and he never was able to give us a championship, through no real fault of his own. He was surrounded by what some loosely would consider a championship team for 3 years from 93 to 95. After that, the teams were good but never on championship level. Willis was surrounded by All-Time greats and won 2 championships here (69 and 72, right?).

Also Rodman and Artest will never be considered legends.

Posted by Andrew:

Ewing at 23? 21 pts, 9 rebs, 2 blocks. 2nd year in the league.

I find 90% of what Isiah says insulting. Actually I think he is a scary person....someone who would never admit a mistake no matter how small it is.

Sounds like someone else on this squad - and I'll leave it at that.

Anji... again, I think your missing the point. People are attacking Curry's effort and preparation.

As bad as Frye has been the reaction has a much different feel dont you think? Frye plays hard, tries hard and is in great shape. My knock has always been he's not a PF, and will never be a PF, and will continue to struggle until he moves back to his natural position. But Frye cant control all those things.

Curry is fat. He's tired. He doesnt play hard all the time. After 6 years in the league he's not getting better.

Its hard to like and get behind a guy that loafs.

Posted by Anji:

Posted by joec32033:



Walt and Francis were great players but they are not on the same level as guys like Willis and Ewing. In the Knicks hierarchy, Willis and Patrick are on the top and both personified the warrior mentality that exists in New York. I also think a big part is everything Ewing brought to this team and he never was able to give us a championship, through no real fault of his own. He was surrounded by what some loosely would consider a championship team for 3 years from 93 to 95. After that, the teams were good but never on championship level. Willis was surrounded by All-Time greats and won 2 championships here (69 and 72, right?).

Also Rodman and Artest will never be considered legends.

Semantics. Alot of people don't like Curry right now, which is fine because he is play bad right now, but bashing him or Isiah on this is kind of childish. Especially went you know the coach does it all the time(Frye=Duncan-Garnett) and everybody compares players in this manner. NO matter how good or bad or liked.

Also, when breaking down the 50th greatest list I have never hear anyone put Ewing or Reed higher on the list then Pearl and Walt............... but I know what you mean.

I think you are really a big fan of Curry, and he has some amazing potential. But he is horrible when it comes to effort. It really is an insult to Ewing.

Seriously, bad move by Isiah. He's trying to soothe the NY fans with this Curry/Ewing comparison. What he doesn't take into account is that NY fans had the utter, shocking stupidity to stoop so low as to boo Ewing and help drive him out of town, so even if Curry could live up to those lofty comparisons it still wouldn't guarantee anything.

Posted by fishmike:

see? Nobody would care if Isiah just came out and said "Curry is on a good pace, he's already better then Greg Ostertag and Elden Campell at the same age."

hahaha! and on pace to outscore Theo Ratliff!

I agree with Tom that it was a really stupid comparison.

[Edited by - wsdm on 11-20-2006 11:35 AM]