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BigC
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11/19/2006  12:36 PM
As far as we need to get rid of Jamal, are we really going to be in a better situation with Jamal gone?

By getting rid of Jamal does that mean this team will stop acting scared at home?

Does that mean Curry will finally get rebounds and play solid d?
Does that mean Frye will rebound and hit his outside shot?
Does that mean Marbury will not get booed by fans and be more aggressive?
Does that mean this team will win more games?
Does that mean Isiah will be a better coach over night?
Does that mean this team will start delievering and playing solid in the clutch and 4th quarter?
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11/19/2006  1:20 PM
jamal + eddy for webber + lotto protected #1 looks better and better every day.
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11/19/2006  4:21 PM
I prefer francis + curry for garnett
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11/19/2006  4:56 PM
I agree. I think Crawford is a typical "Why don't we have this guy on our team" kind of guy. For example, when he's with Chicago, fans of of other teams would probably have said, "I wish we have this guy on our team", because all the highlights shown on ESPN and some monster games he had. But when he's really in your team and you see him play everyday, you realize that he's far from what you expected. His highlight reels are based on high number of shots he's taking and half of the other games he's horrible. I think he might be a good guy for a losing team to win a few more games (i.e. the few winning shots he took for Knicks last year). But he's such a streak player, inconsistent and need a lot of shots every night (no matter he has a good or bad night) - his play ruins the flow for the whole team. He's not a clutch player. He's not a good team player on a wining team we want to build.
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11/19/2006  5:54 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

jamal + eddy for webber + lotto protected #1 looks better and better every day.
I doubt you'd get a #1 pick from Philly but I'd do that deal without a pick thrown in. Isiah's gotta cut his losses and get whatever he can for Eddy (and Jamal) but I doubt he can accept that considering how much he gave up for Eddy.
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11/19/2006  10:49 PM
Was thinking of starting a post like this. Jamal is pissing me off. He's a ridiculous gunner. Makes some sick shots and big plays, but it's a low percentage game that will never help a team win big. People stand around and watch when he gets the ball because they know he ain't gonna give it up. Offense stagnates completely. Nate off the bench is playing the same role much better. Nate is the Knicks' Vinnie Johnson, Not Crawford. Thought it was revealing to read in today's times that Craw memorizes all his stats. Think pretty much everyone else on the team is playing unselfishly. Got to give Marbs props here. He's been sacrificing his game to a fault.

Another thing I can't understand ... why does Crawford's number get called every time it's the end of a quarter. He just crosses over and hoists a 20 footer every time. Bet his percentage is well below 35% in these situations. I'd much rather give the ball to Nate, Marbs or Stevie and tell them to get to the hole.
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11/20/2006  7:01 PM
start Jamal at the PG spot & you'll see him take ALOT better shots & not be a chucker like he is when he comes off the bench as a SG this season.

he is actually a very good passer into the post, & can really time those alley oop & backdoor cut passes better than any other G we have... a perfect combination to have starting w/Curry... plus those 2 have a great chemistry... Marbury all too often takes a look at Curry who's working to post up down low, decides not to risk passing it into the post & swings the ball to the other side... after a while a bigman tends to stop wanting to work to get position down low if he's not going to get the ball passed to him... that's only natural & the guy i blame for that is Marbury, not Curry... it's his job to be the floor leader & get his teammates the ball in a good position to score.
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11/20/2006  7:06 PM
Posted by bernard:

Another thing I can't understand ... why does Crawford's number get called every time it's the end of a quarter. He just crosses over and hoists a 20 footer every time. Bet his percentage is well below 35% in these situations. I'd much rather give the ball to Nate, Marbs or Stevie and tell them to get to the hole.

Nate has already shown this season that he's way too apt to commit a turnover if called upon to score in a big situation... plus his height makes him very apt to be smothered w/the double team... Francis' jumpshot is not consistent enough to make him the best option to have the ball in his hands w/time running down... forget about Marbury, he's not consistent at all w/the ball in his hands & time running down, & too often passes up opportunities to score to give the ball to his teammates who are often caught in a bad position to get the shot off w/very little time left on the clock.

I trust Jamal w/the ball everytime over anyone else on this team w/time running down... he's the best we have to take & make off balance shots & we already know his range is pretty much unlimited... how many game winners does he need to make for you guys to see that?
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11/20/2006  10:04 PM
Posted by TMS:

start Jamal at the PG spot & you'll see him take ALOT better shots & not be a chucker like he is when he comes off the bench as a SG this season.
You might be right but that only makes him more frustrating. He shouldn't need to be pampered. He should have enough discipline to make good decisions in any role he's given.

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11/20/2006  10:19 PM
Here's a typical stats for Crawford, vs. Houston tonite:
MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A
Jamal Crawford, SG 35 8-21 1-7 8-8

A lot of shots made were at the end of the game when teams were trading shots. I can't believe he's doing this (jacking up shots) night in and night out on his own, but I really don't understand the logic here. Has Isiah already lost confidence to all the other players. To be fair, this is not Crawford's worst night, at least he tried to go to the hoop a few times and drawing the fouls. He made a couple of good assists too. I'm not trying to put the blame on him for this lost. But it's pain to see him putting up some those shots when Knicks had the momentum. I can imagine some of his teammates would feel the same.
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11/20/2006  10:22 PM
yea but without craw what would are record be????
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11/20/2006  11:11 PM
If he plays within himself we have a better chance of winning. Isiah getting the tech the other day overshadowed the stupid palming violation when we were down by a point with the ball and momentum. He just totally killed it for me there.
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11/21/2006  9:47 AM
Posted by wsdm:
Posted by TMS:

start Jamal at the PG spot & you'll see him take ALOT better shots & not be a chucker like he is when he comes off the bench as a SG this season.
You might be right but that only makes him more frustrating. He shouldn't need to be pampered. He should have enough discipline to make good decisions in any role he's given.

at least he's trying out there... i didn't see any of the other G's giving much of an effort last night at all, including Nate.
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11/21/2006  10:00 AM
Jamal is back to being a chucker, but at least he's also taking it to the rack and doing the best he can on defense. Getting hands in passing lanes and coming up with key block and steals is big basketball. Unfortunately, he just hasn't learned.

I think he proved last season that he is best suited for a drill seargant type of coach.
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11/21/2006  10:48 AM
i think Jamal & Steph might need to reverse roles on this team
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11/22/2006  10:11 PM
I still want him gone!!!!!!!!!!
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11/23/2006  12:29 PM
JC and Q have been our best players so far. Francis must go. The problem is finding takers.
We could be the Dallas Mavs of the East.
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11/23/2006  8:30 PM
Crawford is ****ing terrible anyone who doesn't see that is an ******* that doesn't watch games, he takes terrible shots and his stats don't tell the story....

Usually commits three to's a game
Usually take 3 shots a game that lead to fast break points for the other team
Never runs the offense, is selfish and can't get people the ball

He doesn;t win games he loses them, shortsighted people see him hit a big shot here and there and score one on one and they think he is a breathe of fresh air, when he is a killer, trading him for nothing would be a better idea then putting up with this ******* for 4 more years
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11/23/2006  11:22 PM
Posted by MS:

Crawford is ****ing terrible anyone who doesn't see that is an ******* that doesn't watch games, he takes terrible shots and his stats don't tell the story....

Usually commits three to's a game
Usually take 3 shots a game that lead to fast break points for the other team
Never runs the offense, is selfish and can't get people the ball

He doesn;t win games he loses them, shortsighted people see him hit a big shot here and there and score one on one and they think he is a breathe of fresh air, when he is a killer, trading him for nothing would be a better idea then putting up with this ******* for 4 more years


He is killing the team. Feast or Famine that is Crawford!
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11/23/2006  11:29 PM
Crawford by himself is accountable for at least 12 to 15 missed shots a game which often leads to fast break points for the opponents. He is also responsible for at least 3 to 5 palming or travelling violations per game. Yeah he scores 30 points, but he pisses off his teammates with all the crazy shots he takes. He is simply a MORON!!!
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