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Vmart
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12/13/2002  4:28 PM
Posted by ibleedorangeandblue:
Posted by OasisBU:

I believe Lebron is an amazing talent, but its going to take a few more pieces to get this team to the finals - and to be competitive in them. First of all, Vujanic needs to pan out. I see Lebron playing the SF or the SG more then the PG - although he is a great passer, his body is too big for that position. We will also need someone to replace KT at the 5 - he will be a great 6th man behind a healthy Dyess but shouldnt be our starting 5, I would even condier trading him or Spree to get another pick in this draft or to grab a decent big man. Get a solid 5, a healthy Dyess, Lebron, Houston, Vujonic, and I see this team going to the finals and being competitive in them in 2-3 years. Thats my recipe for success if we win him.


Oh yeah one more thing, we will need a new coach who can teach and will get this system going. I heard Phil Jackson is unhappy in Lakerland, maybe he would like to teach Lebron in NY someday

[Edited by - OasisBU on 12/13/2002 11:48:26]



All these Knicks need is to play with some HEART! And when Dice comes back they'll be killer. And forget about Phil Jackson coaching the Knicks! He's one of those chump coaches like Jeff Van BeGonedy that don't want to coach no team that's not going to have a winning record. Makes the record look bad, having all those Ls!! I'll take Chaney anyday.

I got just the coach for the Knicks and thats Micheal Cooper. who better to get the Knicks running and gunning and playing defense than Cooper. If the knicks get James I would want Cooper coaching him. Showtime would be back.

[Edited by - Vmart on 12/13/2002 16:30:08]
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spencerdoobie
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12/13/2002  4:56 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by spencerdoobie:
Posted by Vmart:
so are they contenders right away or in two years? big difference my friend....i respect your opinion, but we are NOT contenders right away if we draft lebron. we would be a lot mre exciting and i would have a lot of hope for the future, but instant contenders?....no...playoffs? yes....championship.....no

The east isn't strong and with Dice they are a playoff team adding a James makes them contenders for the finals. With the east being weak I wouldn't be surprised if Dice came back healthy the knicks sitting with a good playoff position and possibly with the right breaks they may end up in the finals. Its not that far out to think that because the knicks still have good players in Houston, Dice and Spree and Thomas who has been producing.

getting to the finals is one thing.....contending to win is another

Hey if the Knicks get that far they will be contending to win. Lets hope they get there to contend not fold like the NETS did last year. But you gotta take it one step at a time and hopefully it starts with the number one lottery pick what happens after that I'm no fortune teller but I have a feeling its going to be a lot better than what we have been going through the last few years.

i gotta disagree, i dont think the knicks are contenders with lebron. even if they somehow get to the finals, they still are no match for the big 4 out west. (dallas, lakers, spurs, kings)

dont get me wrong, i want lebron to wear orange and blue and if we do luck into him we will be much better, but far from contenders....a lot of work to do before we can be in the "contender" category...even with lebron.
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12/14/2002  4:38 PM
Posted by spencerdoobie:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by spencerdoobie:
Posted by Vmart:
so are they contenders right away or in two years? big difference my friend....i respect your opinion, but we are NOT contenders right away if we draft lebron. we would be a lot mre exciting and i would have a lot of hope for the future, but instant contenders?....no...playoffs? yes....championship.....no

I'm taking the Spurs off that list of powers they simply don't have the goods to get that far anymore. Duncan has no supporting cast.

The east isn't strong and with Dice they are a playoff team adding a James makes them contenders for the finals. With the east being weak I wouldn't be surprised if Dice came back healthy the knicks sitting with a good playoff position and possibly with the right breaks they may end up in the finals. Its not that far out to think that because the knicks still have good players in Houston, Dice and Spree and Thomas who has been producing.

getting to the finals is one thing.....contending to win is another

Hey if the Knicks get that far they will be contending to win. Lets hope they get there to contend not fold like the NETS did last year. But you gotta take it one step at a time and hopefully it starts with the number one lottery pick what happens after that I'm no fortune teller but I have a feeling its going to be a lot better than what we have been going through the last few years.

i gotta disagree, i dont think the knicks are contenders with lebron. even if they somehow get to the finals, they still are no match for the big 4 out west. (dallas, lakers, spurs, kings)

dont get me wrong, i want lebron to wear orange and blue and if we do luck into him we will be much better, but far from contenders....a lot of work to do before we can be in the "contender" category...even with lebron.
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12/14/2002  6:51 PM
How about trading Denver's 2nd rounder, Spree and Thomas for Qyntel Woods, Zach Randolph, and Scottie Pippen once Portland gets so bad that trader Bob wants to mix it up again.

This will make the Knicks bad enough to be in the running for LeBron, while getting some solid young players. In a few years you could have Vujanic, James, Woods, Randolph, McDyess at the starting 5 with a lot of money, especially Pippen's contract, off the cap. I would do that trade if they are serious about LeBron.
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