Posted by joec32033:

MS-What movie is that saying from? It is on the tip of my tongue!

Posted by tkf:

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by tkf:

The nets are not crying because RJ and vince are redundant anyway.. Vince and kidd can carry that team, they could certaintly carry our team if we had them.....

What a swing and a miss with this exuse. Uhhhhh Jeffries, James, Francis, are more redundant on this team than Carter and R.J. for the Nets. You also don't hear the Grizz complaining about not having Gasol.

man, get over yourself. Jeffries is not redundant since he is considered a defensive player, something we never had at the SF position with his size. Francis and James? who is complaining about them being out as a reason for our woes? Carter and Jefferson are pretty much the same player and both are really good players, the nets losing one is not goint to hurt as much since vince is already a allstar caliber player doing the same things jefferson is..... What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by Bippity10:

I think once we stop playing good teams and our guys are able to regroup and feel better about themselves we will be fine. Basketball is a mental game and right now with all the difficult teams that we are playing and the injuries that we are having to endure it is difficult to stay focused. I think once Stevie gets back and JJ returns a month or so from now the conditions will be perfect for us to make our run. Unless of course we have more injuries than of course the conditions wouldn't be perfect for us. But have no fear, at that point we can just wait until that next player gets back from injury before we start expecting things.

Posted by realhiphop:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by realhiphop:

Posted by tkf:

The nets are not crying because RJ and vince are redundant anyway.. Vince and kidd can carry that team, they could certaintly carry our team if we had them.....

How are RJ and Vince redundant? Because they are both athletic stars? RJ is a better finisher while Vince is probably a better iso/perimeter threat.

they are redundant, both play a very similar game, very similar they do the same things on the court for the nets..... and jefferson the better finisher?? LOL... I know you really don't mean that... Have you seen vince's highlight reels? he is as good a finisher there is in this league....

What does Vince being a highlight reel dunker have to do with him being a good finisher? Do you watch Vince play at all? Vince is a great all around player, but he spends a lot of time hanging out on the perimeter. RJ runs the break better. It's that simple.

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by tkf:

The nets are not crying because RJ and vince are redundant anyway.. Vince and kidd can carry that team, they could certaintly carry our team if we had them.....

What a swing and a miss with this exuse. Uhhhhh Jeffries, James, Francis, are more redundant on this team than Carter and R.J. for the Nets. You also don't hear the Grizz complaining about not having Gasol.

man, get over yourself. Jeffries is not redundant since he is considered a defensive player, something we never had at the SF position with his size. Francis and James? who is complaining about them being out as a reason for our woes? Carter and Jefferson are pretty much the same player and both are really good players, the nets losing one is not goint to hurt as much since vince is already a allstar caliber player doing the same things jefferson is..... What the hell are you talking about?

Q plays defense or do you not call what he did against MacGrady defense? Q by a wide Margin blows Jeffries out of the water offensively. Is Q not considered a SF on this team by you? Carter and Jefferson are both similar when it comes to athleticism to a degree but Carter's offensive game is wide spread across the court, far more versatile meanwhile Jefferson's is limited. Not to mention having both allows them to play an open court game more easily. Jefferson is superior in defense to Carter. Since when is losing a bonafied starter on a team not considered a valid reason to complain? Although Jefferies was more than likely the Knick starter can anyone argue that he should start over Q? Matter of fact when he gets healthy he JJ should come off the bench because the backcourt and interior froncourt is what's so pathetic on this team.


Also LOL At liking to hear your ownself talk "Mr. Let Me Post My(TKF's) Keys To Loss For Every Game on Multiple Boards"

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-13-2006 11:49 AM]

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-13-2006 11:50 AM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

or use excuses, they go out there and win? RJ is better than any current knick--i know some people make Jared jefferies out to be lebron james , but imagine if we lost a caliber of player like that? It's part of the nba and you have to deal with it, like the old knicks use to--players *step up* instead of making excuses.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by SeatsBlue:

Posted by tkf:

The nets are not crying because RJ and vince are redundant anyway.. Vince and kidd can carry that team, they could certaintly carry our team if we had them.....

What a swing and a miss with this exuse. Uhhhhh Jeffries, James, Francis, are more redundant on this team than Carter and R.J. for the Nets. You also don't hear the Grizz complaining about not having Gasol.

man, get over yourself. Jeffries is not redundant since he is considered a defensive player, something we never had at the SF position with his size. Francis and James? who is complaining about them being out as a reason for our woes? Carter and Jefferson are pretty much the same player and both are really good players, the nets losing one is not goint to hurt as much since vince is already a allstar caliber player doing the same things jefferson is..... What the hell are you talking about?

Q plays defense or do you not call what he did against MacGrady defense? Q by a wide Margin blows Jeffries out of the water offensively. Is Q not considered a SF on this team by you? Carter and Jefferson are both similar when it comes to athleticism to a degree but Carter's offensive game is wide spread across the court, far more versatile meanwhile Jefferson's is limited. Not to mention having both allows them to play an open court game more easily. Jefferson is superior in defense to Carter. Since when is losing a bonafied starter on a team not considered a valid reason to complain? Although Jefferies was more than likely the Knick starter can anyone argue that he should start over Q? Matter of fact when he gets healthy he JJ should come off the bench because the backcourt and interior froncourt is what's so pathetic on this team.


Also LOL At liking to hear your ownself talk "Mr. Let Me Post My(TKF's) Keys To Loss For Every Game on Multiple Boards"

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-13-2006 11:49 AM]

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-13-2006 11:50 AM]

you pretty much explained why Q and jeffries are not redundant.. first of all Q is better suited at the SG position, while Jeffries is a true SF.. He has more size and is really more of a defensive player than Q. Although Q is a good defender he is also a good offensive player, having both of them on the floor for the knicks IMO would make the knicks a better team by far. So I don't see how you say Q and Jeffries are redundant... thanks for making my argument for me...

I'm looking at it from a more intellectual standpoint of how this team is structured, needs, and utilization. If Q wasn't in the starting line-up as the starting small forward the team would be down by 40pts after 2qrts. The team has 5 gaurds Nate, Chokebury, Francis, Jamal, Collins(another position that's redundant) so Nooooooo Q is better suited as the SF on this team plus he stretches the D on the perimeter with his shooting, Jeffries provides 1 thing actually which is supposed defense, although it's overrated. With the addition of Balkman(and you could even argue Lee) who provides the same thing, who appears to be just as good as Jeffries if given the playing time makes Jeffries redundant on this team at the SF position. This team isn't getting killed by opposing teams SF's, it's getting killed by gaurd/backcourt & interior/frontcourt play offensively and defensively.

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-13-2006 9:36 PM]