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Anji
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11/25/2006  12:23 PM
^^^ What a difference 20 days make Ah???????
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11/25/2006  12:35 PM
Greg Oden will not come out after a half year at Ohio State

He hasn't even been healthy enough to suit up

Besides, the Bulls are not striking fear in anyone yet
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misterearl
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11/25/2006  12:35 PM
... and they have been on the total rebuild for seven years now
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misterearl
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11/25/2006  12:37 PM
nyk4ever - the 07 pick is up for question

nothing is certain at this point

except te fact the Knicks have been better in player transactions in the last two years than in the previous five
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11/25/2006  12:40 PM
If the season ended today, the Bulls could take Oden with there own pick
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
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11/25/2006  12:50 PM
bigbeast - read my lips

Oden ain't coming out
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11/25/2006  12:51 PM
yeah, I doubt Oden comes out.
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11/25/2006  12:56 PM
I think it's a myth that adding muscle interferes with sports performance. If you're too big because of fat, that's a different story.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-25-2006 12:56 PM]
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11/25/2006  1:04 PM
Tonight's game against the Bulls is huge.
I just hope if we win people don't write it off as some aberration.

I don't think the Bulls are that good.
I could realistically see us dipping maybe five slots in the draft because of the Curry trade.

At least we still get to see Zeke use his draft talents at least once in the first round on draft night regardless of our respective records... We aren't in such a bad shape long term.
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11/25/2006  1:04 PM
Too big? What do you think is helping him rebound so much more efficiently?

Of all the things wrong with the Knicks right now David Lee being stronger is not one of them.
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11/25/2006  1:26 PM
Oden has a good tournament and goes no. 1 2 or3, he is gone.
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11/25/2006  1:32 PM
Oden...schmoden

Beat the Bulls tonight
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11/25/2006  1:44 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Elite - let's not get crazy. I liked David Lee in Saint Louis, but "by far"?

C'mon, take a deep breath and get your pom-poms under control.

Why not Let's see how the Knicks come together as a team before forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive?

Just win baby.


Who is better than him? He is by far the best player on this team i dont think its even much of a debate. Look at his stats. And who is forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive? Not me... Im just stating the obvious.. David Lee rules. Gotta give credit when its due.
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11/25/2006  1:47 PM
Dlee is our MVP. the bench this year reminds me of 1999 when we had Camby, Spree and Childs coming off the bench. unfortunately, the starters do not recall Ward, Houston, LJ, Oak and Ewing. though, Q has a little LJ in him this year. and Marbury seems to think he is Charlie Ward on offense.
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11/25/2006  1:53 PM
Posted by Elite:
Posted by misterearl:

Elite - let's not get crazy. I liked David Lee in Saint Louis, but "by far"?

C'mon, take a deep breath and get your pom-poms under control.

Why not Let's see how the Knicks come together as a team before forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive?

Just win baby.


Who is better than him? He is by far the best player on this team i dont think its even much of a debate. Look at his stats. And who is forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive? Not me... Im just stating the obvious.. David Lee rules. Gotta give credit when its due.

Frye is a much better player than David Lee....DLee is not the type of player you can build an offense or a team around...It's a little different when you are padding your numbers against the second and third string...If you were watching last night, Lee's numbers came after the game was well in the Knicks' favor...I think the credit for the victory goes to the play of Curry, Frye, Francis and Q for this particular game...Please, I like Lee but all this run away joy is a little out of hand...Lee can play with the likes of JKidd,...Lee can now play point forward....Amazing...DLee is a very nice player off the bench that gives us energy...Lets leave it like that until the rest of the team figure out their roles on this team...
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11/25/2006  1:54 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Dlee is our MVP. the bench this year reminds me of 1999 when we had Camby, Spree and Childs coming off the bench. unfortunately, the starters do not recall Ward, Houston, LJ, Oak and Ewing. though, Q has a little LJ in him this year. and Marbury seems to think he is Charlie Ward on offense.

99 should have been our year. What an absolute SQUAD.

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11/25/2006  1:56 PM
What? Lee had 9 rebounds in the first half when the game was still very close. The guy had a huge impact in every facet of the game. Did you see him in the zone? Not only was he all over the place but he was constantly talking along with Q. He should play 40 mins a night.
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by Elite:
Posted by misterearl:

Elite - let's not get crazy. I liked David Lee in Saint Louis, but "by far"?

C'mon, take a deep breath and get your pom-poms under control.

Why not Let's see how the Knicks come together as a team before forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive?

Just win baby.


Who is better than him? He is by far the best player on this team i dont think its even much of a debate. Look at his stats. And who is forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive? Not me... Im just stating the obvious.. David Lee rules. Gotta give credit when its due.

Frye is a much better player than David Lee....DLee is not the type of player you can build an offense or a team around...It's a little different when you are padding your numbers against the second and third string...If you were watching last night, Lee's numbers came after the game was well in the Knicks' favor...I think the credit for the victory goes to the play of Curry, Frye, Francis and Q for this particular game...Please, I like Lee but all this run away joy is a little out of hand...Lee can play with the likes of JKidd,...Lee can now play point forward....Amazing...DLee is a very nice player off the bench that gives us energy...Lets leave it like that until the rest of the team figure out their roles on this team...


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11/25/2006  2:02 PM
Posted by Ray15:

What? Lee had 9 rebounds in the first half when the game was still very close. The guy had a huge impact in every facet of the game. Did you see him in the zone? Not only was he all over the place but he was constantly talking along with Q. He should play 40 mins a night.
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by Elite:
Posted by misterearl:

Elite - let's not get crazy. I liked David Lee in Saint Louis, but "by far"?

C'mon, take a deep breath and get your pom-poms under control.

Why not Let's see how the Knicks come together as a team before forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive?

Just win baby.


Who is better than him? He is by far the best player on this team i dont think its even much of a debate. Look at his stats. And who is forwarding individual agendas as the prime directive? Not me... Im just stating the obvious.. David Lee rules. Gotta give credit when its due.

Frye is a much better player than David Lee....DLee is not the type of player you can build an offense or a team around...It's a little different when you are padding your numbers against the second and third string...If you were watching last night, Lee's numbers came after the game was well in the Knicks' favor...I think the credit for the victory goes to the play of Curry, Frye, Francis and Q for this particular game...Please, I like Lee but all this run away joy is a little out of hand...Lee can play with the likes of JKidd,...Lee can now play point forward....Amazing...DLee is a very nice player off the bench that gives us energy...Lets leave it like that until the rest of the team figure out their roles on this team...


I don't want to get into a game of knocking Lee, I really like him...But I'm not going to sit here and say Lee should be playing ahead of more talented players...It's great to get the extra hustle and energy on a nightly basis with Lee...The problem is when you get to the playoffs, everyone plays hard and hustles....It's talent and ability that wins playoff games and Championships...Guys like Frye has to get time now to develop their games...Curry and Frye could be difference makers, this isn't college ball where all hustle will be the difference...If that was the case Chicago would win it every year...No team hustles like them...
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11/25/2006  2:39 PM
sorry but Frye is not better than David Lee... Not now anyways, not by far. Right now Channing frye has a jump hook, and a jump shot.. Thats a bout it. David Lee rebounds like a maniac, he hustles on D, steals the ball and a very high rate for a PF... Shoots at EXCELLENT %'s from the feild and the line.. its actually not even close. Yes, David Lee (right now) is better than Channing Frye. If Frye develops his game could he be better than Lee? Sure... But as of now.. Dlee is killin everyone on this team
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11/25/2006  2:42 PM
anyone who thinks what Lee does is based on hustle is mistaken. he hustles, but the kid has talent. the same guys who lead the league in rebounds during the regular season, lead the league in the playoffs. rebounding is not about hustle, it's about positioning and timing. passing is not about hustle. come on.
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