Marbury and Francis are two of the league's worst guards at feeding the post. Crawford's very good. Thats part of the problem. Francis and Marbury are both short and dont want their passes deflected. Watch... they got bottled up very easily, so they go left or right and try to take their man off the dribble. Its just not one of their stregnths.

Why does Frye have to be the future? What if Curry and Frye dont fit well together? And Frye isnt a franchise player. Nobody here says he's not good or wont be good, but because of his pricetag Curry is staying regardless. If we can upgrade PF than why not? You dont trade young for old... thats all. If you trade Frye you have to get a young player back.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

it is crazy how malicious some of you knick fans are. Frye is the future of our team, he has one bad game and all of a sudden everything he did ast year is forgotten. Frye is a half court player (i.e. Kurt Thomas struggling with Suns) once he adapts to the Knicks new playing style he should be dominant once again.

Frye is the same as he as the last half of last year too. Not just one game... one offseason too.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

it is crazy how malicious some of you knick fans are. Frye is the future of our team, he has one bad game and all of a sudden everything he did ast year is forgotten. Frye is a half court player (i.e. Kurt Thomas struggling with Suns) once he adapts to the Knicks new playing style he should be dominant once again.

How is Frye the future, just because he was selected 8th overall in the draft? I have not based any of my opinions on one game, that would be ridiculous. My views of Frye are based on last year, and his 4 years career in college, if 5 years isn't enough of a body of work for me too judge him on, please let me know.

I think the problem is we have curry setting up in the post every play...which is what he should do. This is the biggest reason i think frye should come off the bench - not because he isn't starter quality, but off the bench he can be the focal point. you can't have two guys setting up in the post, especially when we have penetrating guards like francis and marbury. bring him off the bench, play him about 20 minutes at center in the post, and play him another 10 minutes at PF where he can do less posting up and be more of a shooter.

frye is a stiff.... he cant even catch and dunk a ball

Posted by BRIGGS:

STOP taking long jumpshots. I don't know who is giving you the advice about sitting on the perimeter But STOP. Get down to the low post and STAY there--3-4 12+ footers a game OK------BUT you want 80% of your shots from point blank range. If you have the mentality that you did at AZ of letting the game go by while you sit out on the perimeter--you will keep your SOFT label. Go back and look at your films playing in the NCAA's your senior year---you dominated in the post. shooting jumpshots is fool's gold. You are FRIKIN 6-11 with long arms with good post moves. Go DEMAND the ball and take 15 shots in the post tonight. You must play TOUGHER and SMARTER--these crp efforts that I have seen dating back to large portions of last year after that nice spell is troubling. To be the man you must be a MAN--DEMAND the ball on the low post and go to work. To defer the ball to anyone--get into the post and become VOCAL and do your thing. Move your frikin legs on the D and stop coming down with your arms---you pick up way to many fouls--both you and curry pick up way to many fouls that can be avoided by THINKING the game a little.
Cheers
BRIGGS

Fryes got a lot of talent and lot of years ahead of him. He alone needs to work his way through this. If he can pull it together, then there is are other scorer. His game wasn't totally a bust. He grabbed 8 boards, not bad for the troubled shooter. His body wieight and the label as leader is too much to take on right now. I hate to say it, but in time he will come together and he will improve. I think Zeke was right in letting him try to work it out during the game.

And guys, we finally got our center! I'm not sure why only two rebounds, but he certainly has taken the responsibility. Give it up for Curry.

Posted by EnySpree:

Hi channing this is enyspree. Stop playing like a puccy. Thanks.

P.s.: you don't need the ball in the post. You need to get in there and get the ball yourself and rebound. You look like a fag out there. Stop complaining to the refs all the time! Be a man and stop being a puccy!

yeah, and stop asking everyone for quarters and stop driking cool-aid on the side. You need to be a man and stop acting like your two years old man. yeah, stop trying to be cool and a star. And leave the refs alone. They have lives to live also man.

Just thought I'd try it. It's just not me!

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

it is crazy how malicious some of you knick fans are. Frye is the future of our team, he has one bad game and all of a sudden everything he did ast year is forgotten. Frye is a half court player (i.e. Kurt Thomas struggling with Suns) once he adapts to the Knicks new playing style he should be dominant once again.

He never was in the position to be dominant, but for the most part, I agree with you.

Posted by TMS:

it is crazy how malicious some of you knick fans are.

telling Channing to play D is malicious? sensitive peeps around here lately.

[Edited by - TMS on 11-03-2006 2:37 PM]

Ah, our whole team is having defensive problems. It's not fair to target one guy.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by 4949:



And guys, we finally got our center! I'm not sure why only two rebounds, but he certainly has taken the responsibility. Give it up for Curry.

So far this year through 2 games, I think Curry looks good, I think the 2 rebounds tonite was kind of an aberration. The problem with the Knicks offense is that the PG's don't give Curry the friggen ball when he has position down low. It's so frustrating, but this is the problem with this team, we don't have a real PG. If we had a real PG who knows how to run a offense, Curry would be getting 20 shots a game. He deserves it.

The thing I like about Curry is, at the very end of last year, what he said with the press, really impressed upon me that he finally got it and that same observation has carried over into his new game. I am very proud of Curry for becoming the force we knew he could be. The scary part about it was 'we didn't know if he'd ever recognize it'. Well' he has and he's living up to it. The important thing is his character and maturity has finally come of age. I want to remind everyone one more thing about Curry, that I said several times before. Theoretically, he is a rook. This is his fifth year in the NBA, and he never went to college, so I think he spent those four years developing, something you do in college. The nice thing about his truely first year is that 'he has four years under his belt'! I think it's showing.

And man' you said a mouthful. Franchise and Starbury are going to hog the hell out of that ball. They should' be handing it to Curry in the middle. It's so sad that starbury especially will never be a team player. Although, I must admit, Franchise did a little better tonight with those 8 assists. He just might earn starbury's position afterall. starbury's got to go. I say let Collins develop.

Posted by joec32033:


It wasn't an abberation bro. I actually did research on this a while back in a thread with oohah about Curry. He does this constantly. I actually thought to myself if he got 9 or 10 boards this might be a turnaround. He does this CONSTANTLY after big games he falls to below even average centers. Check his game log from last year on Yahoo or something. After each and every 10+ rebounding game, he follows it up with somewhere around a 3 rebound game.

Theres no doubt about that Joe, he has a track record of doing this, I know it. I just felt after watching Eddy so far this year that he was actually a little more active around the basket when the ball wasn't in his hands and it is going to lead to more rebounds. Curry will never be anywhere close to a dominant rebounder, but I honestly think after watching him on Wednesday and the preseason that he will average 8rpg this year.