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arkrud
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11/3/2006  10:03 AM
Only fans who care less about the Knicks can be overexited about the wins taken from depleted and junky opponents.
The fans who cares should take it for granted. We should not only win we whould blow them away.
With the payrole and hyped talent we have nothing less that blowing away teams like Atlanta is acceptable.

I will start loking with optimism at this season when Knicks will start gettting wins from the opponents with solid players in the roster. I want to see how we can stop KG, Cobe, James, Wade, Dunkinn/genobly/parker, Shed/harington/Billus and... (this will be a long list there) from blowing us away single handly.
When I will see we are standing tuff against the best (I am not asking for winning all the time) i will move from "haters" club to the "optimists"

[Edited by - arkrud on 11-03-2006 10:04 AM]
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11/3/2006  10:04 AM
and akrud.
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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11/3/2006  10:05 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:

and akrud.

I am not deny this as you see...
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11/3/2006  10:12 AM
Posted by Rich:

Winning would be a lot easier if Frye regained his shooting touch.

WORD

Beat the Evil Empire. BEAT MIAMI
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11/3/2006  10:15 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Tell me again who are haters here?

You, islesfan, fishmike, Allanfan20, Bippity and MS...so far.

[Edited by - babyKnicks on 11-03-2006 10:04 AM]

Weren't you banned?
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11/3/2006  10:35 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Once again another post degenerates to who is the "best fan". Does anyone else find hearing this nonsense over and over again to be incredibly boring.

*raises hand*

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11/3/2006  10:41 AM
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The point I'm trying to make Isles is that we're all Knicks fans no matter what and we want what we think is best for the franchise. Just because you and I think differently from guys like Tapseer, Nixluava etc etc doesn't make us any bit less of a fan. I get so tired of hearing this garbage.

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11/3/2006  11:00 AM
The other day I started a post that I thought would be a fun diversion to let everyone express their prediction for whether the team will succeed or not this year, which my friends and I do for other teams. Rather than responses, I got attacks from mostly "haters" calling the post stupid. I really don't understand this strong emotion regarding the hater/optimist views. IMO, if you don't like the team and think that the team will fail this year, I have no problem with you having that opinion or stating that position and why you feel that way. I will still assume that you will support the team and if you go to the games, that you will shout for the Knicks to win. There are other teams that I don't like due to the coach or other issues, but I will still support the team because I am a fan of the team regardless of whether I like the coach. Yet, for some reason, the people that have negative views about the Knicks seem to take being called a "hater" as some insult or act as if they are ashame of their view. The optimists on the other hand seem to have no problem expressiing optimism about the team. Maybe that is simply human nature, but anyway, I don't think people should be taking these labels that seriously. We are all Knicks fans and want the team to succeed. Some people think the team will do that this year, and others think that the team will not. The labels are insignificant in my opinion. Maybe there was some huge controversy or attacks against the haters on this board in the past that I am not aware of.
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11/3/2006  11:02 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:


You know what I find hilarious and garbage? That if he Knicks lose, you and guns will have no problem saying "i told you so" as if it was an accomplishment. If they botch a play, if Curry has a bad game, if Stephon cannot pass the ball, I'll hear about how you guys have been saying this all summer. Ok, yea, I know this Knick team is very average. I know this Knick team is not winning a championship. If you guys want the leeway and the "i always root for my franchise" then don't tell us you told us so.

So just because you don't say anything bad about the Knicks, your a better fan? Just because you like where the team is going and I don't, your a better fan?

Right. got it.
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11/3/2006  11:17 AM
Clearly stating that we have no pg, don't utlize curry have a gm/coach that is a snake and doesn't know how to do his job, and has made terrible moves setting the franchise back years doesn't make you a hater it makes you a realist that has a brain.

You are an ******* if you buy into what isiah is saying. Everyone is excited to get a win no question they come at a premium but Memphis is not going to make the playoffs and they were missing there best player and we blew a 19point fourth quarter lead by...... suprise; not taking care of the ball and have crawford launch like its a playground......

AND OUR COACH HAS THE AUDACITY TO FUCKING TELL THE FANS "Its not that we were doing anything wrong its everything they were doing right"

Yes two rookies, and chucky atkins dismantling your $125 million dollar misfits has a lot to do with everything they did right.....

They should pound at Atlanta by pounding it into curry, and he should score 20 in his sleep but they won't and they will continue to play personal ball instead of team ball.....

So if that makes me a hater, I welcome the title
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11/3/2006  11:18 AM
Posted by TheGame:

The other day I started a post that I thought would be a fun diversion to let everyone express their prediction for whether the team will succeed or not this year, which my friends and I do for other teams. Rather than responses, I got attacks from mostly "haters" calling the post stupid. I really don't understand this strong emotion regarding the hater/optimist views. IMO, if you don't like the team and think that the team will fail this year, I have no problem with you having that opinion or stating that position and why you feel that way. I will still assume that you will support the team and if you go to the games, that you will shout for the Knicks to win. There are other teams that I don't like due to the coach or other issues, but I will still support the team because I am a fan of the team regardless of whether I like the coach. Yet, for some reason, the people that have negative views about the Knicks seem to take being called a "hater" as some insult or act as if they are ashame of their view. The optimists on the other hand seem to have no problem expressiing optimism about the team. Maybe that is simply human nature, but anyway, I don't think people should be taking these labels that seriously. We are all Knicks fans and want the team to succeed. Some people think the team will do that this year, and others think that the team will not. The labels are insignificant in my opinion. Maybe there was some huge controversy or attacks against the haters on this board in the past that I am not aware of.

It wasn't the post. It was the fact that you started out the post "are you a hater" or an "optimist" or somehting like that. Guys get tired of that nonsense. It was funny, when I started a post and simply asked for predictions without labeling anyone I got plenty of responses.

I guess Sometimes when you hear it from the haters, you think that's just the haters. We had five other posters that told you why they didn't like your post. And you heard something pretty specific from me. If you don't know why we didn't like it, it's because whatever school you went to wasn't a good academic institution. You are delusional.
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nyk4ever
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11/3/2006  11:24 AM
Posted by TheGame:

The other day I started a post that I thought would be a fun diversion to let everyone express their prediction for whether the team will succeed or not this year, which my friends and I do for other teams. Rather than responses, I got attacks from mostly "haters" calling the post stupid. I really don't understand this strong emotion regarding the hater/optimist views. IMO, if you don't like the team and think that the team will fail this year, I have no problem with you having that opinion or stating that position and why you feel that way. I will still assume that you will support the team and if you go to the games, that you will shout for the Knicks to win. There are other teams that I don't like due to the coach or other issues, but I will still support the team because I am a fan of the team regardless of whether I like the coach. Yet, for some reason, the people that have negative views about the Knicks seem to take being called a "hater" as some insult or act as if they are ashame of their view. The optimists on the other hand seem to have no problem expressiing optimism about the team. Maybe that is simply human nature, but anyway, I don't think people should be taking these labels that seriously. We are all Knicks fans and want the team to succeed. Some people think the team will do that this year, and others think that the team will not. The labels are insignificant in my opinion. Maybe there was some huge controversy or attacks against the haters on this board in the past that I am not aware of.

Heres a clue.

DON'T ENTITLE YOUR THREAD. "ARE YOU A HATER OR A KOOL-AID DRINKER"

That might help in the future, just thought I'd let you know.
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11/3/2006  11:24 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Tell me again who are haters here?

You, islesfan, fishmike, Allanfan20, Bippity and MS...so far.


I like the knicks but I'm a babyKnicks hater.



I liked rvhoss better....
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11/3/2006  11:24 AM
I guess I just don't understand why we have so many people who's self-esteem is so low that they have to search around trying to find who the haters and optimists are. Just state your opinion back it up with facts and have a conversation. Why is that so hard.

I keep pointing this out and noone addresses it because I am 100% correct and they can't stand it. NYK4eva bashes Stephon Marbury and he is called a hater by another poster that shouldn't be bashing Knicks players. He's asked why he hates his team so much, blah, blah, blah. Two seconds later that same fan is on another post bashing Malik Rose and Jamal Crawford. You are only a hater if you bash the guys that the "optimists" like. It's boring posting. State your opinion and back it up and you won't need anyone else's help. But when you have nothing to say, no backbone or facts to back up your opinion you must bring up the "hater" vs "optimist" nonsense in order to summon other people of like mind to try to legitimize your whack asse empty post.

Bip has spoken.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 11-03-2006 11:26 AM]
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11/3/2006  11:25 AM
Posted by MS:

Clearly stating that we have no pg, don't utlize curry have a gm/coach that is a snake and doesn't know how to do his job, and has made terrible moves setting the franchise back years doesn't make you a hater it makes you a realist that has a brain.

You are an ******* if you buy into what isiah is saying. Everyone is excited to get a win no question they come at a premium but Memphis is not going to make the playoffs and they were missing there best player and we blew a 19point fourth quarter lead by...... suprise; not taking care of the ball and have crawford launch like its a playground......

AND OUR COACH HAS THE AUDACITY TO FUCKING TELL THE FANS "Its not that we were doing anything wrong its everything they were doing right"

Yes two rookies, and chucky atkins dismantling your $125 million dollar misfits has a lot to do with everything they did right.....

They should pound at Atlanta by pounding it into curry, and he should score 20 in his sleep but they won't and they will continue to play personal ball instead of team ball.....

So if that makes me a hater, I welcome the title

i was having a conversation with my boss at work about the knicks. he watches sports and knows alot about baseball but he's just a casual basketball viewer...but he knows about the game. and he was telling me after the memphis game that it looked like isiah didn't even coach the team that entire 4th quarter and into overtime. it's like he just let them do whatever they wanted. he said that they looked more under control and more like a real "team" last year than in this game where they just had no clue what to do. now this is coming from a guy that's just watching the game and is not a "hater, kool-aid drinker, lb lover, or isiah hater". this is just from a fan of basketball talking.
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11/3/2006  11:26 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by babyKnicks:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Tell me again who are haters here?

You, islesfan, fishmike, Allanfan20, Bippity and MS...so far.


I like the knicks but I'm a babyKnicks hater.



I liked rvhoss better....

I would bet the house thats RV. Judging from the amount of smilies used and after reading a few posts, he's said the same exact things that RV said. EXACT SAME.
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11/3/2006  11:30 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by babyKnicks:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Tell me again who are haters here?

You, islesfan, fishmike, Allanfan20, Bippity and MS...so far.


I like the knicks but I'm a babyKnicks hater.



I liked rvhoss better....

I would bet the house thats RV. Judging from the amount of smilies used and after reading a few posts, he's said the same exact things that RV said. EXACT SAME.


That's okay, either way we'll kick that sh!t eating grin off his face again and again, whatever his name is.
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11/3/2006  11:32 AM
It's all the same. If you have nothing of note to say, blame the lack of good conversation on other people being haters.
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11/3/2006  11:34 AM
BTW, I kid hoss but I do like him. I don't think he takes himself as seriously as people take him.

He reminds me of a fried I had in high school who was half my size but would come at me to wrestle. I'd kill him every time. spinning him around by his jacket sleeve, tossing him into cars and tress and stuff, but he'd keep coming and coming until we were both exhausted. It was good natured rough-housing and I think that's all hoss is about.
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11/3/2006  11:39 AM
EXACTLY

HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU MUST ASK?

Do men stand up in the face of adversity? YES

Do the Knicks? NO

Does a team unite for each other, because they give there heart to win, not for the coach but for themselves? YES (ex: OAKLAND A's this year hated their manager but played for each other)

Do the Knicks? NO

Do winners make excuses why they lose? NO (EX: the new jersey nets don't make excuses we just got outplayed in this series they were better JKIDD)

Do the Knicks? YES
"He was trying to take my joy away" Nate
-he showed be able to celebrate after iverson dropped 45 on him or stare the lakers bench down because he dunked with 1min left in the game while the knicks were geting blow out

"I tried playing his way, I'm going to go back and be Starbury"
"Me and coach didn't see eye to eye"
"He brought in Francis to get rid of me"
-the worst PG IN THE NBA

Everyone took their shots for their short comings, which is what losers do.

Is Isiah a loser when he can't have the ball in his hands? YES

Did he bring in losers that didn't come from winning programs, that didn't know the game, that didn't win? YES and he did it over and over again.....

Now is this coach going to let the players just be themselves go back to old habits and not play the game the right way? YES

Was Larry trying to teach these players to be better men, better players, winning player?
YES and when they did not respond he knew that they would never responds and gave up on the team, called them out publically and what did they do? They did what losers do, make excuses and hide behind them

So in reality FUCK YOU, whoever believes its hatred that fuels many of the posts that intelligent fans make, that know what it takes to win and know what kind of players make it in a tough market. Do i think i know the city better than Isiah? YES....Do I think I know what players will make it here? YES.....Do I love this franchise and want it to prosper and succeed? YES

SO WHEN SOMEONE DESTROYS WHAT YOU LOVE, AND YOU DON'T HATE; THAT MAKES YOU A HATER AND COWARD
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