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BlueSeats
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Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Marbs showed his "leadership" when he was out injured we had won 2 straight games. Things were looking good for a few days when before the game he has to make his lame "Starbury" comments and how he doesnt care what the coachs tell him to do.
So much for Larry Brown being the one that sabotaged the season. If anybody did that it was Starbury and it's pretty obvious for all except the biggest Kool-Aid drinkers.
the Knicks were 4-17 without Marbury. not sure if/when they ever won 2 straight without him playing. We won 3 in a row without him: April 5, Cleveland April 7, Indiana April 9, Boston SugarRay got the story a bit mixed up. We had won 2 in a row before Marbury's "Starbury" comments, but he had been playing. Then he opened his mouth and things went south, much like they did after he proclaimed himself the best after three consecutive wins, and then we went on a 2-16 tear downward. This is one reason I have trouble to envision sustained success with this dude on the team. Every time he finds some he gets coc/ky and shoots the team in the foot by opening his vacuous mouth. New Starbury era begins 0-2
March 14, 2006
No one ever thought it was going to be a love match.
The marriage of Stephon Marbury and Larry Brown was forged out of mutual desperation. The Knicks were looking for someone with both name and talent who had some idea how to lead them out of their current mess and make the best of Marbury's unrealized talent. Brown was looking for a challenge, a way to land on his feet after an ugly divorce from the Pistons.
No one, however, could have predicted that things were going to get as ugly as they have, that the Knicks would be the worst team in basketball, that Brown and Marbury still would be sniping at each other five months into the season.
It's hard to say what motivated Marbury to take Brown's coaching to task over the weekend while the Knicks were enjoying their first two-game winning streak since mid-January. What you can say is that you can now add timing to the list of skills Marbury needs to master.
The Knicks are 0-2 since Marbury declared he was going back to being "Starbury." No one is sure what being Starbury is, though judging from last night's game against Denver, it involves scoring 25 points, picking up seven assists and losing by 12.
The Knicks are now back to their losing ways, with the only hot thing at the Garden being the Marbury-Brown feud. One thing that is becoming increasingly clear is that Marbury and Brown might not be able to coexist much longer.
On a well-run team, that would mean that the Knicks would do something, anything, to rid themselves of their perpetually disgruntled point guard this summer. It is hard to say what tack the Knicks will take.
In his recent state of the Knicks address, team owner James Dolan spoke glowingly of Marbury's tenure with the team. Dolan is a bit of a, shall we say, maverick when it comes to making decisions about who's going to make decisions on his team. It would be a shame if that means he chooses a 29-year-old point guard who has never won a playoff series over a Hall of Fame coach.
Brown is only the latest in a long line of potential mentors who have failed to get through to Marbury, failed to turn his impressive talents into the sort of force that can lead a team. Flip Saunders couldn't do it, Byron Scott couldn't do it, Lenny Wilkens couldn't do it. And Knicks president Isiah Thomas, one of the all-time great point guards, hasn't been able to do it.
Before Brown appeared on the scene, the Knicks organization had coddled Marbury. He was allowed to point fingers at his teammates, he was allowed to pout at his coaches, he was allowed to do pretty much whatever he wanted on the floor because no one in the organization - except for Thomas, who has a big investment in his success - had more juice than Marbury.
Suffice it to say, Brown is not the coddling type. Denver coach George Karl, a longtime Brown disciple, said before last night's game that Brown is notoriously hard on his guards. Yet, a long list of players, including MVP candidate Chauncey Billups and Allen Iverson, credit Brown and his tough love for making them into the players they are today.
Marbury had visions of being the next Iverson when the Knicks hired Brown. It's clear that's not going to happen.
"Those two guys are not the same player," Brown said. "Allen, before I got there, was a point guard and I played him off the ball. He was a different player. I've never given a guard more freedom than I've given Stephon Marbury in my life."
What bothered Brown the most is that Marbury chose to make his comments after the Knicks had won two games in a row. Marbury totaled only 18 points and took 17 shots in the victories over Indiana and the Bucks, but the team won. In the two losses since, Marbury totaled 43 points and took 27 shots.
So much for the Starbury era.[Edited by - blueSeats on 09-28-2006 11:23 PM] |
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