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wsdm
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9/8/2006  7:12 AM
Two quick questions about lifting for you guys.
1) What is your warmup exercise? I'm doing 3 sets of pullups, 15 reps each for warmup. I dont run or anything else and only stretch out my shoulders.
2) How long do you wait between sets? I have structured burn outs. They come at the end so I dont do the crazy 15 seconds between sets stuff. I've heard wait 45 seconds to 2 minutes between heavy sets. Is waiting important or doesnt really make a difference?
I spend about 15 min warming up so I my whole body is loose and I can get the most out of my workouts. 5 min aerobics then about ten min of what's called dynamic stretching (moving while stretching). The time between sets depends on how heavy a load you're lifting. If you're trying to bulk up, you're gonna be lifting VERY HEAVY loads for few reps and you'll need 2 min rest. When I do deadlifting, squating, and bench pressing, I NEED the 2 min rest. I'm actually often frustrated and shocked when the timer goes off because I feel like I need more rest. That's what pushing yourself involves. If you're just trying to tone your muscles, higher reps with much less rest is fine.
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9/8/2006  9:11 AM
Actually, last year I built a sunroom off my bedroom for a home gyme. I long believe in buying very good equipment (one piece a year) instead of using a personal trainer which I did for a few years. I had this stuff in the playroom but it was taking too much room.

We find this works for us, while many buy the stuff thinking just owning it will do the work for them. I have some health problems that are reduced by excercising. Like Eny, its for stress reduction and better health. My wife also, but she is blessed with superior genetics than most mortals and the results on her are really incredible on her. I guess that makes me blessed.

I have an eliptical, rower, spinning bike and a weight stack machine.

With virgin walls during constuction I wired a 7.1 surround system w/ flat panel TV.

This is where I watch alot of my knick games and movies.

The lure of that system brings me back, and the fact its right off my bedroom keeps me and my wife in focus. Our lives are so busy its impossible to get to a gym.

I primarily use the spinning bike for a ten minute warm up to get the blood going. Then I alternate on days either the eliptical, the rower or just straight lifting. My goal is AT LEAST 30-35 min or aerobic activity. If nothing else just get the heart pumping for a while and sweat.
The rower is a kick ass workout and gives me the best results all around. ITs a bitch though!

Lifting alone is great for dexterity and keeping tone but without aerobic its just does not do it for me. I tend to not lift as much as I would like. The buzz from lifting and a good concert on the DVD can take a long time to get done!

My hoop playing days are long gone.

Dom Irrara the comedian said:

"When I was young I worked out to be the next Mickey Mantle!

Then I WOrked out to attract the ladies,

Now Im just trying to not have tits!"

What ever works, just do it!


VDesai
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9/8/2006  9:26 AM
Don't laugh at me but I really like the elliptical machine. I do about 30 mins (roughly 4-5 miles) per day. I like it a lot more than the treadmill. I need to get back on weights, but first I need to drop about 15 pounds and build up some more endurance.

I didn't take advantage of all that free gym equipment in college like I should have.
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9/8/2006  9:35 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Don't laugh at me but I really like the elliptical machine. I do about 30 mins (roughly 4-5 miles) per day. I like it a lot more than the treadmill. I need to get back on weights, but first I need to drop about 15 pounds and build up some more endurance.

I didn't take advantage of all that free gym equipment in college like I should have.

THe eliptical with a heart moniter is no joke. I don't care about speed or distance but I watch my heart rate and make sure it gets elevated and stays in that "burn" area. The rest of the numbers follow up. ONe must do at least 20 min in that rate to be effective. I like it because it does not hurt any of the joints and its easy on the back and neck. I got a really bad neck (Two blown discs) and with exercise I was able to avoid the surgery. I don't want fusion! I was just a few weeks away from having to have it (don't want to lose the use of left arm!) but I started having results.

As long as I am moving, It does not bother me. The longer I can stay off the operating room, the more the body adapts to the lack of space in the discs.

Broke my neck playing basketball in college. Got lowbridged. Took two years to heal then, played a bit again in my 20s, but then the 1990s bad boy type ball was in vogue and eveyone at the Y thought they were rick mahorn or charles oakley! I preffered the 1970's ball nobody played defense!

Now, Im just trying to not have Tits!

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9/8/2006  10:21 AM
I like to enhance my workouts with some HGH. It's really made a difference-- it's given me that extra oomph that I'd been missing all these years. Just add water.

j/k.

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9/8/2006  10:34 AM
jesus nalod that's intense!

a series of stress fractures in my feet totally ended my athletic endeavors. i HATE being in a cast with crutches, and it was too demoralizing when i'd feel that familiar pain and knew what was coming.

my main thing now is walking. i love to roam this city, it's not unusual for me to log 10 miles in a day. i don't do any working out - i just use the yo-yo approach. i live it up till i hit 205. that's my gross point. then i cool it till i'm down to 185, then live it up again. right now i'm around 195 so i got some living to do!
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9/8/2006  11:01 AM

HGH can cause Cancer. And heart problems.

Sounds like a miricle cure. I think in short doses for small time frames to help heal an injury it might be ok. But what happens when you come off it?

Tits!
wsdm
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9/8/2006  12:04 PM
Posted by Marv:

jesus nalod that's intense!

a series of stress fractures in my feet totally ended my athletic endeavors. i HATE being in a cast with crutches, and it was too demoralizing when i'd feel that familiar pain and knew what was coming.

my main thing now is walking. i love to roam this city, it's not unusual for me to log 10 miles in a day. i don't do any working out - i just use the yo-yo approach. i live it up till i hit 205. that's my gross point. then i cool it till i'm down to 185, then live it up again. right now i'm around 195 so i got some living to do!

How'd you get the stress fractures? I once had a hairline ankle fracture from playing basketball. Otherwise, I've never broken anything.
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9/8/2006  12:06 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by wsdm:

I've put on 19 pounds of mostly muscle since June 1. I'm not sure what your weight goals are (gain, lose, stay same) but most people do too many isolation exercises (bicep curls, leg curls) and not enough compound lifts. Compound lifts get far more muscle fibers activated. The best are probably bench pressing, squatting, and deadlifting. (Not sure if you can do the latter two because of your knee, though. I assume you can do dips and pull ups though, which are good.) My view is that most people don't eat nearly enough protein either. Most experts recommend about 1.5 grams per pound of body weight per day if you're active. I eat closer to 2 grams per pound daily. Drink a lot of water, esp. if you're eating a lot of protein. There's no substitute for doing a lot of reading!

[Edited by - wsdm on 09-07-2006 9:08 PM]

19 pounds of muscle in 3 months is pretty impressive.

I agree that the big boys are important bench, squats, deadlifts. You still should do the isolations but with the mentality of trying to get gains on the big boys.

When you said knee problems I figured you were talking to me. But dude I did lay it out for you as far as my routine. All the things you mentioned are in my routine. Washing the protein down with a little absolute?

Sorry, I missed the part about you doing squats and deads. With the isos, I guess it depends on what stage you're at and what your goals are. I already have good muscle definition. I just want to add a lot more muscle mass throughout my body. So bicep curls, tricep extensions, etc. won't do nearly as much for my goals as compound lifts.
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9/8/2006  2:38 PM
~Silver
If you're going heavy, rest 2-3 minutes between sets. You WANT your muscles to recover.

~Eny
I workout one body part a day and I usually switch up the exercise everytime. I do 5-6 execises...3 sets at 12 reps or 4 sets at 8 reps.

Monday- Chest
Tuesday - Biceps
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Triceps
Friday - Back/shoulders

I run, at least, three times a week and play Basketball/Soccer occasionally.
I do Abs workout at home in front of the television...I do whatever comes to mind about 3x a week. IMO, cadio and a healthy diet is the key to losing the "beer" belly.
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9/8/2006  3:50 PM
Nalod, everyone loves tits.

I guess what's important is what people are training for. I was in an nyurban bball league this summer, and damn it, I suddenly lost all of my endurance and basketball skill. I turned into a tired plodder for the first 7 games of the season--- good for a 3 minute session of tough d, but too tired to dribble the ball up the floor.

I'm trying to see if this is just part of the human aging process. I turned 32 this summer, right around the time when the pros start to lose something.

I never claimed to have refined basketball skills, but the drop-off since last summer was incredible.

So... in order to try to re-gain some of my athleticism, I joined the gym again after a 6 year break. :) I had been doing my own circuit routine using free weights @ home based on the Men's Health Abs Diet book & workouts from various fitness magazines--- I looked in decent enough shape, but I lost the stamina for any sort of athletic activity.

Most of my effort is regaining my cardio-stamina. In early July, I was huffing and puffing and wheezing to finish a 5k on the treadmill (in 40 minutes). My weight was around 162ish, give or take 2lbs (I'm 5'7ish).

I wasn't seeing much in the way of results initially, so I started on a modified South Beach Diet (still allowed to have drinks from time to time!)-- Diet's a huge part of jump-starting fitness results, in my opinion. My weight dropped pretty quickly to the mid-high 150s, where I've been maintaining.

Over the past 2 weeks, I was able to get under 27 minutes.

I think it's very reasonable goal to bring that number to under 24 minutes, especially on a treadmill.

Overall, my goals are:
1) keep up with the young guys in these leagues & maintain high effort over "starter" minutes
2) regain some level of hops w/o fear of getting calf cramps (back in high school, I could occassionally grab the rim... so 30+" vertical-- now I'm afraid to get off the ground)
3) regain some level of shooting touch
4) get those abs
5) be able to do an outdoor 5k in under 24 minutes

[Edited by - technomaster on 09-08-2006 4:20 PM]
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9/8/2006  11:32 PM
I feel you techno. Its hard as hell to get older. I just look at it this way, we work. A lot of guys play ball everyday just about. Not everyone has that much free time, throw kids and wife into the mix and the time flys.

I'm looking to get back on the court by November. I'm 27 and I'm afraid of that drop off. I want to get back now before this hill turns into a mountain. I'm kicking serious ass by the way.

As far as a warm up, I just do push ups till I feel my blood pumpin good. Maybe 2 sets of 20-30 push-ups. I also strech everything mildly before I do the push-ups.
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