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Ewing Resigns as Rocket's Assitant Coach
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lovespree
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8/30/2006  3:15 PM
Let's not forget another BIGGGGG reason that Ewing wanted out of NY....the fans/media! We (fans) were all over Ewing back then. Saying he was washed up....the team would be better of without him. I remember very well. It was brutal for Ewing back then. Everyday there was an article saying how the Knicks were a better team without Ewing and he should sit and let the youngsters take over. I know Patrick was wounded by all of the criticism. Well criticism is one thing, but to say the team was better of without him was another. I could understand the criticism of him not being the player he once was. But to me that meant taking a back seat, maybe a reserved role - not exonerating him from the team as most wanted to do. I would have wanted a trade back then as well. It seemed that no one in NY wanted Ewing on the team back then. But after saying all of that, it was still up to management to make the call. I guess that didn't want to disrespect Ewing by holding on to him knowing he wanted to go but that's what I would have done. But we didn't and we are still paying for it.
I think Ewing would be an excellent guide for the youngsters. He is everything we were in the old days. A competitor, a warrior and a hard worker. He gave so much of himself to the KNICKS - on the court.
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8/30/2006  3:55 PM
Man I remember when they raised his jersey up to the rafters - I was at the garden. It was special, and I think it went a long way towards healing the way he was treated on his way out.

I miss Pat. I dont think he is the answer, but he could teach the bigs a thing or two about how to play down low. As martin said....this team needs people who are going to help them get better, is Ewing the best man for the job? I am not sure.
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8/30/2006  3:58 PM
I would seriously give anything to hear this line again...

"And at Center, 7feet from Georgetown, number 33, tri-captain, PA-TRICK EWING!
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8/30/2006  4:51 PM
Many guys are right here. Ewing asked for a trade for two reasons: H did not want to play second/third fiddle, and he wanted superstar money.

He did force it I guess, but I think it was more like a request.

So sad...he really got sh!tted on during his career here, even though he was great. A paralel is KG, never getting the supportr he deserves, except Ewing took his team much farther than KG ever did.

I think Ewing could teach curry a thing or two...like how to shoot jumpers!! Remember guys? He was a shooter, until Houston, it seemed like he was the best mid-range shooter on the team.

Nice to reminisce...

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8/30/2006  5:20 PM
Posted by martin:

I want to bring assitants in who can help the team, not just past players who are still living past glory.

Yeah like those great assistants that Larry Brown brought in here last year.

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8/30/2006  5:56 PM
Once again...Herb Williams is an assistant coach?????? You mean to tell me that you wouldn't give Ewing a shot. He has to be better than Herb Williams?? Doc Rivers was no where near the player that Ewing was and he's doing an okay job as a head coach. I know the comparison is a little soft but I'm saying.......we could at least give Ewing a shot if nothing else.
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8/30/2006  6:00 PM
And another thing...We brought Larry Brown here on a whim if you ask me....yeah he's a hall of fame coach but everything about him spelled that he would not be a good fit for the Knicks. We did not have the personal on this team that he is used to working with. But we brought him in anyway, why? Becuase he was Larry Brown, hall of fame coach that's why...everything was suppose to fall into place after that. Not. So, if the KNICKS are going to waste time and money on someone anyway albeit player or coach (and you know they will/they always do) it should at least be someone that meant something to the organization
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8/30/2006  6:13 PM
Posted by lovespree:

Once again...Herb Williams is an assistant coach?????? You mean to tell me that you wouldn't give Ewing a shot. He has to be better than Herb Williams?? Doc Rivers was no where near the player that Ewing was and he's doing an okay job as a head coach. I know the comparison is a little soft but I'm saying.......we could at least give Ewing a shot if nothing else.

there is a ton difference between playing ability and coaching ability. Jordan was THE best player in the world but he SUCKS as a talent evaluator and GM.
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8/30/2006  6:15 PM
Posted by lovespree:

And another thing...We brought Larry Brown here on a whim if you ask me....yeah he's a hall of fame coach but everything about him spelled that he would not be a good fit for the Knicks. We did not have the personal on this team that he is used to working with. But we brought him in anyway, why? Becuase he was Larry Brown, hall of fame coach that's why...everything was suppose to fall into place after that. Not. So, if the KNICKS are going to waste time and money on someone anyway albeit player or coach (and you know they will/they always do) it should at least be someone that meant something to the organization

Good post Spree. I'm still baffled about last year. Whats the point of bringing Brown here if your "not going to allow him to shop for the groceries if he's making the dinner" - great Bill Parcells line. The Knicks made themselves look bad, they made the players look bad, they made Brown look bad. It was just a terrible ordeal. I'm still of the train of thought that if the Knicks allowed Larry to do this thing it would have worked out. But hey, not everyone feels like that and we might as well let sleeping dogs lie. I just don't want patchups anymore, if you can't take Larry Brown fine, but I want someone in here who has a track record of success either at coach or GM.

Listen, I think what Isiah's doing with the offense, will allow the offense to be pretty successful, but these players might not allow him to be successfull here defensively and as much as I hate Isiah for what he's done to the Knicks, it'll be sad to see his legacy as a player get as tarnished as bad as it will. Isiah tried, his trades were horrific but he did try and I'll give him that. I would seriously give anything to get Rod Thorn in here to run this organization, the man knows what he's doing when he builds a team. He has an accute sense with player transactions.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 08-30-2006 6:16 PM]
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8/30/2006  9:03 PM
Posted by buddapaw:

Come back EWING to teach the KIDS


yeah cuz he did such a great job with Yao
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8/30/2006  9:15 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by buddapaw:

Come back EWING to teach the KIDS


yeah cuz he did such a great job with Yao

Are you being sarcastic? While only with the Rockets for 2 years, Yao's numbers skyrocketed. He averaged 22 points and 10 rebounds a game last year, both career highs. Patrick did a GREAT job with Yao.
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8/30/2006  10:00 PM
Assume Patrick is a Knicks assistant...
Can you imagine Marbary or let’s say Mo coming on TV and start mumbling about couches are not doing their job or other guys suck? Or quit during the game? And then they need to go back to the locker-room and see Patrick...
I don’t want to be at their place...
He will be helpful just by his presence. We need people of undeniable honor in this organization full of discredited misconducts...
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8/30/2006  10:11 PM
Although winning a championship with Ewing on the bench will never be as sweet as him carrying us to one I'd still love for him to be there when we win one 30yrs from now
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8/30/2006  11:42 PM
I would love to see Ewing back. Working with Jeff had to have taught him alot. My only concern is that he led by his actions not by his words. I am not sure if he could communicate the knowledge and passion that he has through words.
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8/31/2006  10:31 AM
Bring Patrick back. I back Isiah but at some point this has been like Trotier (hated Islander) trying to coach the Rangers. He was fired soon. Bring back a link to Knicks pride. Patrick has said dozens of times he wants to come back. I just think Isiah is threatened by anyone outside his good old boy network.
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8/31/2006  11:33 AM
I agree for the same reasons. As much as I loved Patrick I wouldn't bring him in as a coach. Since ha is interested in spending more time with his family maybe he will do some coaching of his son at Georgetown.
Posted by CrushAlot:

I would love to see Ewing back. Working with Jeff had to have taught him alot. My only concern is that he led by his actions not by his words. I am not sure if he could communicate the knowledge and passion that he has through words.


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8/31/2006  4:28 PM
I don't see whats the blood clot about Ewing leaving the Rockets. Dude looked like he was stoned the whole time he was on the bench.

Maybe they found his stash.
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8/31/2006  11:19 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:

I don't see whats the blood clot about Ewing leaving the Rockets. Dude looked like he was stoned the whole time he was on the bench.

Maybe they found his stash.


This photoshoped pic is kinda phuched up. Someone posted this as Ewings family!
funny as hell.



If this offends you then you've iconized Ewing too much and romanced his era a bit too.

Patrick was great, but was a brooding selfish young man whom was a bit too self obsorbed and liked the money and glory, but wanted a pity party at times too.

Team? Fans? they were inconviences.
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9/1/2006  3:16 AM
Posted by martin:

I understand how Ewing is regarded as being a Knicks player and part of what was very good about the Knicks team but I just don't think he what it takes to be an assitant. He was too stubbern as a player, didn't learn quickly enough, had a hard time bettering the game of others around him. Not to say that he couldn't become a good assitant, but the attributes just weren't there.
1. All of the greats were stubborn. Your favorite coach in the world LB is as stubborn as they come, but you still wanted him here. Being stubborn as a player is not necasarily transferable to coaching, especially asst. coaching.
2. Learning quickly enough? Please explain.
3. Bettering others around him? he carried the team on his back for 15 years, and I am not sure this has anything to do with his ability to asst. coach.

As an asst. coach, I would expect him to be able to teach our bigs how to use their 'length & girth'. Show them how to move under the basket, how to respond to their man on defense, how to exploit other bigs' weaknesses, in game analysis and teaching. Show them some moves and provide inspiration to the youngns about what it means to be a knick and a professional. And perhaps intimidate a few cats. Didn't you support bring oakley back AS A PLAYER to do some of these same things, especially the last 2?

I think he can fill that role, he certainly has the knowledge base. Its just a question of is he motivated, and is he a good teacher. I don't know, but it seems worth a shot to me.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-01-2006 03:20 AM]
Ewing Resigns as Rocket's Assitant Coach

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