Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:
When you look at Steph's career there haven't been many seasons where he had other players he could depend on if he gave them the ball. Its not that he doesn't want to or won't. Its a matter of who could he have given the ball to. When he did give up the ball this year they said he was scared to take the last shot. He's always in a catch 22.
Who was he supposed to trust with making the shots or the right decision with the ball? You tell me besides KG who was so dependable that he should have given them the ball more often? If you look at the guys who played with him that had the ability to do something with the ball, most of them saw more shots with Steph than they did without him. No one that was ready for more shots didn't get them playing with Steph. TT complained, but he bricked it up when he did get his chance. KT complained, but he saw more shots with Steph than he did with Nash. Marion saw more shots with Steph than he did with Nash. People sometimes bring up Amare, but he was a damn rookie when he played with Steph. Still he was a rookie of the year. KVH saw more shots with Steph than he did with anyone else. WHO are all these guys who should've got shots but didn't playing with Steph. KG and Gugliotta became All Stars, had their 1st winning season and made their 1st playoff appearances playing with Steph. In truth there really isn't a good case to be made that Steph is a selfish player. The facts don't support it.
Do you realize all your doing is making excuse after excuse for Marbury. He's been in the NBA 10 years and has never gotten it together, never ONCE. Your just making excuses for him. We know he's a wonderful individual talent but it's never once transferred over as being a wonderful team talent. It's sad to think that way but its the truth.
Yes I know what it seems like to many people who think its all up to him how his career has turned out, but in truth that's not the case, anymore than it is for KG or any other talented lead player. The circumstances under which you play have a LOT to do with how you are perceived. Imagine how much different things would be for him if H2O had been able to get healthy and play alongside Steph. I think the team would've been in the playoffs and likely have won some games, in the 1st 1.5 seasons Steph was here. That kind of success would have given people a different opinion of him. People seemed so shocked when Steph started playing his game and lifting the whole team up until he got hurt. Now the inury was a fluke thing and yet another excuse from your point of view, but its a reality. He didn't drop off in performance, he got HURT. Likewise when the team is playing at a much higher level this year people will see what I SEE in Steph. He's never dropped off in his level of performance, however, its a FACT that his teammates have gone up and down due in large part to injury and for some inexperience or in the case of some like TT, Shandon Anderson or QRich, just plain stinking up the joint.
Surely you can't blame Steph for Curry being out of shape and not playing up to his potential? Surely you can't blame him for LB deciding not to start Frye and play Lee more, when it was obvious they gave us the best chance to win? All i'm saying is for some of you guys to be fair and realize that ANY top player needs help to win. KG, AI, TMac, Kobe, etc. all need help on the floor to be able to succeed. Steph is no different. Now tho I think we have the players that we need to start to build this team into an eventual contender. Steph, Francis, Jared, Frye and Curry is a VERY nice starting 5. You could substitute Jamal for Francis if you like, but either way this team has some players who will be able to help Steph win games. I'm excited about this year. I can't think of a time we've had this much young talent. Steph won't be a problem for this team. All we need is time to allow this team to jell.
