Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TMS:

woopdee doo, i got the names mixed up... you know damn well who i was referring to... your insistence on downgrading this team's talent & uplifting every other team & player in the NBA is getting to be an old tired act... you'd probably think Michael Jordan sucked if he wore a Knicks' uniform... you'd argue that Primo & Ely are just as good as Curry & Frye? just what are you using to base that argument on? because it can't be on watching these guys play the game... show me some #'s that would indicate those 2 guys are better players.

don't try to change the subject by going on about payroll... the comment you made was that the Bobcats had superior TALENT than the Knicks.

Frye played 4 for us if you werent watching the game, but if you want to go that way Okafor is better than Curry or Frye at any position. Primo and Ely>Curry and JJ

your the one just blindly saying that people are better. can you back it up with stats? cuase marbury had a higher effciency that felton despite the fact that last year was his worst year since his rookie year. and also you have to factor in the larry brown effect. every single knick on the team posted career lows under brown. (except I suppose for the rookies who hadnt had careers yet)

[Edited by - slimpack on 08-04-2006 11:05 AM]

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TMS:

woopdee doo, i got the names mixed up... you know damn well who i was referring to... your insistence on downgrading this team's talent & uplifting every other team & player in the NBA is getting to be an old tired act... you'd probably think Michael Jordan sucked if he wore a Knicks' uniform... you'd argue that Primo & Ely are just as good as Curry & Frye? just what are you using to base that argument on? because it can't be on watching these guys play the game... show me some #'s that would indicate those 2 guys are better players.

don't try to change the subject by going on about payroll... the comment you made was that the Bobcats had superior TALENT than the Knicks.

Frye played 4 for us if you werent watching the game, but if you want to go that way Okafor is better than Curry or Frye at any position. Primo and Ely>Curry and JJ

your the one just blindly saying that people are better. can you back it up with stats? cuase marbury had a higher effciency that felton despite the fact that last year was his worst year since his rookie year. and also you have to factor in the larry brown effect. every single knick on the team posted career lows under brown. (except I suppose for the rookies who hadnt had careers yet)

[Edited by - slimpack on 08-04-2006 11:05 AM]

contracts the same Ill offer you Ray Felton for Stephon Marbury will you take my deal?


contracts the same Ill offer you Gerald Wallace for Steve Francis will you take my deal
contracts the same ill offer you okafor for Frye will you take my deal?
Contracts the same Ill over you adam Morrison for Jared Jeffries[who will be our new starting 3] will you take my deal?

Knicks are a much much deeper team. But hey, on paper means nothing. Bobcats have a lot going for them, but in Brigg's view, it's the grass is always greener. Just remember, OK$ has been real injury prone and hasn't played so much yet. If he can't stay healthy, I'm gonna have to take Channing Frye. But if he can get healthy, give me OK4 anyday.

Brezek has some talent too, but if Eddie Curry can stay in shape, Knicks will have an advantage there too.

Bobcats got the advantage with Wallace but if Marbury/Francis get their heads out of their arses, they own CHarlotte at the PG. BUt that's the problem. None of them play defense and it always seems that the PGs going against us play great.

I would say it's still a head to head race, but I gotto give CHarlotte the slight advantage based on doing better than the Knicks last season. But maybe having Jefferies improves that.

Briggs, who cares if TMS got his name wrong? As long as he knows the player.

Posted by BRIGGS:

contracts the same Ill offer you Gerald Wallace for Steve Francis will you take my deal
contracts the same ill offer you okafor for Frye will you take my deal?
Contracts the same Ill over you adam Morrison for Jared Jeffries[who will be our new starting 3] will you take my deal?

Contracts the same I'll offer you Eddy Curry for Brezec - take it?
How about Nate Robinson for Bernard Robinson?
I'd take Frye over Morrison, too.

I like the Bobcats talent but I can see that team as a horrible mixed bag as well. Okafor can't be productive if he can't stay on the court. Adam Morrison could be the next best player but he could be next bust. I think he will be productive with Okafor on the floor but he will be in bad shape when he isn't. I like Felton, better than Williams. I have always been a fan of Gerald Wallace. I would take Gerald Wallace over any of our SF. Curry is still the x factor.

Posted by Pharzeone:

I like the Bobcats talent but I can see that team as a horrible mixed bag as well. Okafor can't be productive if he can't stay on the court. Adam Morrison could be the next best player but he could be next bust. I think he will be productive with Okafor on the floor but he will be in bad shape when he isn't. I like Felton, better than Williams. I have always been a fan of Gerald Wallace. I would take Gerald Wallace over any of our SF. Curry is still the x factor.

I like Wallace to, but heres my question? where does Wallace play with Morrison on board. Playing Wallace at the 2 does not play to his stregnths. Wallace aint a perimeter player. He's a baseline player who can block shots, rebounds, and clean up all the garbage around the rim.

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Pharzeone:

I like the Bobcats talent but I can see that team as a horrible mixed bag as well. Okafor can't be productive if he can't stay on the court. Adam Morrison could be the next best player but he could be next bust. I think he will be productive with Okafor on the floor but he will be in bad shape when he isn't. I like Felton, better than Williams. I have always been a fan of Gerald Wallace. I would take Gerald Wallace over any of our SF. Curry is still the x factor.

I like Wallace to, but heres my question? where does Wallace play with Morrison on board. Playing Wallace at the 2 does not play to his stregnths. Wallace aint a perimeter player. He's a baseline player who can block shots, rebounds, and clean up all the garbage around the rim.

I see their relationship much like Spree and Houston. Morrison will probably play more 2 guard roles while Wallace will be used to play off the perimeter (slasher role). The beauty of Wallace is that you don't need to call too many plays for him to be effective. He is the type of player that I was hoping Ariza would turn into and may still turn into. But Briggs is right, Bickerstaff, has put together some nice young talent. They have guys that I wanted the Knicks to get Brezec, Ryan Hollins, Jake Voskuhl, Wallace, Matt Carroll. That is a nice young team.