Originally posted by Bonn1997:

Originally posted by Solace:

Originally posted by Bonn1997:

It should be:
LB: We need some more overpaid lazy veterans so I don't have to start the kids!

To be fair and consistent, are you going to say the same about Isiah if the rookies aren't getting 30 mpg each?

I'd have no trouble criticizing any aspect of Isiah's coaching if it's anywhere near as bad as his job as a GM has been. 30 mpg is a silly cut-off but if lazy bums are playing ahead of superior, harder working players, I'll brutally criticize Isiah. I'm surprised you'd ask that.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

Originally posted by Bonn1997:

Originally posted by Solace:

Originally posted by Bonn1997:

It should be:
LB: We need some more overpaid lazy veterans so I don't have to start the kids!

To be fair and consistent, are you going to say the same about Isiah if the rookies aren't getting 30 mpg each?

I'd have no trouble criticizing any aspect of Isiah's coaching if it's anywhere near as bad as his job as a GM has been. 30 mpg is a silly cut-off but if lazy bums are playing ahead of superior, harder working players, I'll brutally criticize Isiah. I'm surprised you'd ask that.

I'm just not sure how many extra minutes you would've wanted each of the rookies to get to be satisfied. Like I said in another thread, I thought Lee got cut short a little on minutes, but Nate and Frye pretty much got as many as they earned last year, IMHO. Naturally, being sophmores, they might get a few extra minutes, but we do have a very deep and stacked roster, so I'm just not sure how many more minutes are realistic, when you have veterans who have earned their minutes over time.

We go through this pretty often here. I would never play lazy players ahead of hardworking players regardless of their # of years of experience. That should probably make it clear about which players I believe Larry should not have been giving a lot of minutes to and which he should. At least until the lazy players got the message.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

We go through this pretty often here. I would never play lazy players ahead of hardworking players regardless of their # of years of experience.

That's fine, but buddy, that puts you in the minority of people with that opinion. In most facets of life, right or wrong, experience is king. The kids are getting experience, and their time will come soon enough. To claim that it's completely incomprehensible how they didn't get more minutes is a little mystifying to me.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

We go through this pretty often here. I would never play lazy players ahead of hardworking players regardless of their # of years of experience.

That's fine, but buddy, that puts you in the minority of people with that opinion. In most facets of life, right or wrong, experience is king. The kids are getting experience, and their time will come soon enough. To claim that it's completely incomprehensible how they didn't get more minutes is a little mystifying to me.

I don't know if it's the minority or majority and I don't care either. I know that on winning teams I don't see lazy veterans playing ahead of hard-workers just because the former are older.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

We go through this pretty often here. I would never play lazy players ahead of hardworking players regardless of their # of years of experience.

That's fine, but buddy, that puts you in the minority of people with that opinion. In most facets of life, right or wrong, experience is king. The kids are getting experience, and their time will come soon enough. To claim that it's completely incomprehensible how they didn't get more minutes is a little mystifying to me.

I don't know if it's the minority or majority and I don't care either. I know that on winning teams I don't see lazy veterans playing ahead of hard-workers just because the former are older.

Diop played ahead of Dampier. Diaw played ahead of Brian Grant and Kurt Thomas. Josh Howard played ahead of Stackhouse. Haslem played ahead of Mourning. Smart coaches aren't experience-phuchers like Larry.

When the Knicks are a winning team and can afford to play players like that ahead of older vets because they bring something the rest of the team doesn't have to the table, you get back to us.

Posted by Solace:


None of those were rookies last sesason, nor are any of those remotely the same situation. In fact, some of your examples were of players who don't even play the same position. Try again.

Posted by martin:

that's a good example Diaw over Grant and KT. Both of whom were on the IR or whatever for most of the year.

Posted by crzymdups:

How about Bogut getting time over Magloire? Chris Paul getting time over Speedy Claxon? You'll notice that when Antonio Davis went to Toronto he didn't start over Charlie Villenueva.

Posted by crzymdups:

How about Bogut getting time over Magloire? Chris Paul getting time over Speedy Claxon? You'll notice that when Antonio Davis went to Toronto he didn't start over Charlie Villenueva.