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7/15/2006  2:26 PM
holy cow, I really thought it was just me. He's gone beyond making a point, to just finding the 4 things he can harp on and jump on the bash-go-round...if it wasn't for [insert disgruntled moderator here] defending his nonstop bashing, he'd be in a post by himself.

How about the "you like that zit filled girl in the corner and you eat chocolate and didn't wear your letterman's jacket that day so you think she is still the cool chick but really she's just stupid" posts. (are these song lyrics?)

it's funny, before the season starts, before training camp starts, **** and others are saying there is no set rotation, but won't dare question last year's record 42 starting lineups (more lineups than wins)

Do you guys have MSG? I know ****** doesn't, so he can only go by the posts and possibly catch the replay on NBA tv, however, I watched the games and was SHOCKED that it looked so smooth (zeke called a layup during a courtside interview!!!) and am convinced...I don't think I saw anything resembling that last year...the winning streak was marbs and lee running roughshod over the league (for 6 games, but hey, it was six games) and I also recall that lee is a big marbury supporter, so ...
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7/15/2006  2:57 PM
No its better to just bash Isiah and Steph then to actually use your eyes and brains to understand what's REALLY happening here. This team was poorly coached last year and that WON'T be the case this year. Last year we had a coach who didn't like the team and coached like it and this year we'll have a coach who likes the team and actually wants to see it SUCCEED. He's got an offense that will maximize the actual players we have. What's so bad about that? What's wrong with running parts of the offense created by some of the best basketball minds there ever were? Well LB is a HORRIBLE offensive coach and always was. His main thing is Defense and that's great if you have a team like the Pistons but what if like MOST of the teams in the league you don't have a team like that? Then you have to be able to make it work with what you have, cuz its not easy to build a team like Detroit. If it was easy we'd see a BUNCH of teams just like them. More important is building a team and a system that's more flexible and can accomodate different types of lineups and then refining both until you can challenge for a title. This offense will be adaptable unlike LB's.

ALSO Isiah and the staff care about the players and will see to their development PERSONALLY. Isiah actually likes to talk TO his players and not AT them. He communicates and will have an easier time getting players to understand what he wants. LB was a great coach in that he was very demanding and it EVENTUALLY would lead to success. However it always took time cuz he's a LOUSY communicator. It never lasts because he's a LOUSY communicator. This is why I don't consider him the best coach in the league. He has too many holes in his game.
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7/16/2006  1:47 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by nixluva:
The minutes are not a big issue since some of the guys will simply have to deal with a few DNP's or very low minutes in certain games. Its all gonna be based on the circumstances of each game and the match ups.
what are you saying? That Isiah is going to use several different line ups? Wont that confuse players cause disarray? LOL... you guys crack me up.

I'm sure several of our veterans, especially high priced ones in contract years wont mind sitting for games because matchups dont favor them. Most NBA players are cool with that.

It seems you guys don't get it. The purpose of the so-called quick offense is to create motion and to incorporate the strengths of several offensive systems in order to create scoring opportunities. It requires that multiple players have the ability to push the ball up the floor and that each player have a complete ability to shoot a 20 footer and cut to the basket. Athleticism is a priority because constant motion is a key to creating shots. Basically, you overwhelm defenses with constant movement creating ample room for players to drive to the hoop, players to cut to the hoop for layup passes, and open outside shots. Now, who plays? 1) Complete players. 2) You need lots of athletic players because of the constant motion, players will get fatigued quicker. By increasing the tempo of the game, you allow a deep team to take advantage of other teams. Make no mistakes, this is a deep team with high talent players through the 11th man. They do have a lot of personality problems and a lack of team chemistry. Funny, though, how winning creates chemistry.

So, who gets playing time? Complete players. Guys like Malik, JJ, Balkman, and Collins should not see significant time unless the Knicks have a ridiculous lead and they only need defensive stoppers to slow the game down in the 4th quarter. Balkman needs a jump shot and then he is rotated in at the 3.

I would guess that Marbury, Francis, Crawford rotate in the 1 and 2 spots. Qrich and Jalen rotate in the 3 (unless Qwoods is resigned). Lee can rotate in at the 3 or 4. Frye can play the 4 or 5. Curry at the 5. They need an additional Center...Butler would fit better than Jerome James. Basically, when IT says he is happy with the team he has, he cannot be truthful. If there is foul trouble to Frye and Curry, the motion offense may become stagnant due to a lack of athleticism in Jerome James (not that Curry is an adonis of athletic form). Basically, if I am the opposing team, I try to beat this offense by cause foul trouble to the extent that the team lacks the depth to keep an uptempo game going.

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7/16/2006  1:53 AM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by nixluva:
The minutes are not a big issue since some of the guys will simply have to deal with a few DNP's or very low minutes in certain games. Its all gonna be based on the circumstances of each game and the match ups.
what are you saying? That Isiah is going to use several different line ups? Wont that confuse players cause disarray? LOL... you guys crack me up.

I'm sure several of our veterans, especially high priced ones in contract years wont mind sitting for games because matchups dont favor them. Most NBA players are cool with that.

It seems you guys don't get it. The purpose of the so-called quick offense is to create motion and to incorporate the strengths of several offensive systems in order to create scoring opportunities. It requires that multiple players have the ability to push the ball up the floor and that each player have a complete ability to shoot a 20 footer and cut to the basket. Athleticism is a priority because constant motion is a key to creating shots. Basically, you overwhelm defenses with constant movement creating ample room for players to drive to the hoop, players to cut to the hoop for layup passes, and open outside shots. Now, who plays? 1) Complete players. 2) You need lots of athletic players because of the constant motion, players will get fatigued quicker. By increasing the tempo of the game, you allow a deep team to take advantage of other teams. Make no mistakes, this is a deep team with high talent players through the 11th man. They do have a lot of personality problems and a lack of team chemistry. Funny, though, how winning creates chemistry.

So, who gets playing time? Complete players. Guys like Malik, JJ, Balkman, and Collins should not see significant time unless the Knicks have a ridiculous lead and they only need defensive stoppers to slow the game down in the 4th quarter. Balkman needs a jump shot and then he is rotated in at the 3.

I would guess that Marbury, Francis, Crawford rotate in the 1 and 2 spots. Qrich and Jalen rotate in the 3 (unless Qwoods is resigned). Lee can rotate in at the 3 or 4. Frye can play the 4 or 5. Curry at the 5. They need an additional Center...Butler would fit better than Jerome James. Basically, when IT says he is happy with the team he has, he cannot be truthful. If there is foul trouble to Frye and Curry, the motion offense may become stagnant due to a lack of athleticism in Jerome James (not that Curry is an adonis of athletic form). Basically, if I am the opposing team, I try to beat this offense by cause foul trouble to the extent that the team lacks the depth to keep an uptempo game going.

If this offense works so well how come no team in modern basketball has ever won a championship playing like this? You seem to be overlooking the fact that Stephon Marbury refused to play this system in Phoenix under Mike D'Antoni as well. How will Curry fair busting his ass up and down the court offensively and defensively time and time again? Uptempo offense also requires your team to have pretty consistent outside shooters which the Knicks have none of. Will the Knicks play any amount of defense that will allow them to win postseason games, should they get to the playoffs? These are all serious questions I have with the makeup and direction this team is headed.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-16-2006 01:54 AM]
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7/16/2006  8:23 AM
The offense began in detroit (2 championships) and borrows from the triangle (6 championships).

Forget how many championships UCLA has as does Indiana.

It is a coaching style, and each coach has his own style (see LB).

the "quick" offense bean with the pacers IMHO and they increased their win total each year with the youngest athletic team in the east and then isiah got fired.

So, to ask when a system this young has won a championship is a loaded "i've got nothing to say, so I will ask the obvious" question.

Are you just looking for any possible way to discount a system that worked great with rookies?

We are all of the opinion that isiah has learned from his past playoff miscues (sp) and that the nba playoffs are different now than they were then (see how far phoenix and dallas went) where he sees the nba moving in the direction of the quick offense.

Also, please please please watch a SL game and see the defense.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 07-16-2006 08:27 AM]
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7/16/2006  8:25 AM
I think this is why he is letting Jackie Go and thinking about signing miller, he is the perfect player at the moment for the offense as he knows it well and can hit the outside jumper.

This would solve our depth problem at center. Also, balkman's role in this offense, he actually fits into it perfectly.

Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by nixluva:
The minutes are not a big issue since some of the guys will simply have to deal with a few DNP's or very low minutes in certain games. Its all gonna be based on the circumstances of each game and the match ups.
what are you saying? That Isiah is going to use several different line ups? Wont that confuse players cause disarray? LOL... you guys crack me up.

I'm sure several of our veterans, especially high priced ones in contract years wont mind sitting for games because matchups dont favor them. Most NBA players are cool with that.

It seems you guys don't get it. The purpose of the so-called quick offense is to create motion and to incorporate the strengths of several offensive systems in order to create scoring opportunities. It requires that multiple players have the ability to push the ball up the floor and that each player have a complete ability to shoot a 20 footer and cut to the basket. Athleticism is a priority because constant motion is a key to creating shots. Basically, you overwhelm defenses with constant movement creating ample room for players to drive to the hoop, players to cut to the hoop for layup passes, and open outside shots. Now, who plays? 1) Complete players. 2) You need lots of athletic players because of the constant motion, players will get fatigued quicker. By increasing the tempo of the game, you allow a deep team to take advantage of other teams. Make no mistakes, this is a deep team with high talent players through the 11th man. They do have a lot of personality problems and a lack of team chemistry. Funny, though, how winning creates chemistry.

So, who gets playing time? Complete players. Guys like Malik, JJ, Balkman, and Collins should not see significant time unless the Knicks have a ridiculous lead and they only need defensive stoppers to slow the game down in the 4th quarter. Balkman needs a jump shot and then he is rotated in at the 3.

I would guess that Marbury, Francis, Crawford rotate in the 1 and 2 spots. Qrich and Jalen rotate in the 3 (unless Qwoods is resigned). Lee can rotate in at the 3 or 4. Frye can play the 4 or 5. Curry at the 5. They need an additional Center...Butler would fit better than Jerome James. Basically, when IT says he is happy with the team he has, he cannot be truthful. If there is foul trouble to Frye and Curry, the motion offense may become stagnant due to a lack of athleticism in Jerome James (not that Curry is an adonis of athletic form). Basically, if I am the opposing team, I try to beat this offense by cause foul trouble to the extent that the team lacks the depth to keep an uptempo game going.

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7/16/2006  9:16 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

The offense began in detroit (2 championships) and borrows from the triangle (6 championships).

Forget how many championships UCLA has as does Indiana.

It is a coaching style, and each coach has his own style (see LB).

the "quick" offense bean with the pacers IMHO and they increased their win total each year with the youngest athletic team in the east and then isiah got fired.

So, to ask when a system this young has won a championship is a loaded "i've got nothing to say, so I will ask the obvious" question.

Are you just looking for any possible way to discount a system that worked great with rookies?

We are all of the opinion that isiah has learned from his past playoff miscues (sp) and that the nba playoffs are different now than they were then (see how far phoenix and dallas went) where he sees the nba moving in the direction of the quick offense.

Also, please please please watch a SL game and see the defense.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 07-16-2006 08:27 AM]

D'Antoni's, the Triangle, even the pick n roll based Daly offense have/had a head to initate play. Isiah is talking about playing without one.

it sounds like he is running an ant farm instead of a basketball team
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7/16/2006  9:41 AM
I don't get the ant farm analogy. His offense enables anybody to initiate the offense off of a miss and on makes start it with the PG at the time. 9 times out of 10 that will be marbury/backupPG.

But I understand your inability to see this.
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7/16/2006  10:39 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:


If this offense works so well how come no team in modern basketball has ever won a championship playing like this? You seem to be overlooking the fact that Stephon Marbury refused to play this system in Phoenix under Mike D'Antoni as well. How will Curry fair busting his ass up and down the court offensively and defensively time and time again? Uptempo offense also requires your team to have pretty consistent outside shooters which the Knicks have none of. Will the Knicks play any amount of defense that will allow them to win postseason games, should they get to the playoffs? These are all serious questions I have with the makeup and direction this team is headed.

NYK, you've rattled off five questions, some of which are fair.

  • Winning an NBA Championship is not entirely indicative of the merit of a system. One cannot win with a system until one plays with a system. The Pacers went to the Eastern Conference Finals with this system, under Isiah. Similar systems have been used in foreign "modern" basketball with success. The above article points out how Argentina dismantled the US using a modified version.
  • Marbury's refusal in Pheonix was based on his immature ignorant notions of offense. Subsequently, he was removed from Pheonix. Note that Pheonix is not running "this" offense. "This" offense requires getting the ball to half court "quick" and then setting up plays. Pheonix ran a run and gun offense which was more likely to go "coast to coast" then the "quick offense". The fact of the matter is, Marbury never gave the offense a shot and now he regrets it.
  • Quoting Isiah, "Curry is the key", that is, his conditioning is crucial to the ability of these players to succeed. Also, he needs to develop passing ability to get the ball out of the post and back to the wing players. This is a concern for everyone, because, as stated in a previous post, the PF and C positions are lacking in athleticism and depth.
  • Consistent shooters are required. They do not need to be 3 point shooters. Marbury, Francis, Crawford, Frye, Lee(? supposedly got a J), Q, and Jalen can consistently hit the 18 to 20 foot shot. That is more than enough. A Center who can do that also would complete the offense.
  • Defense, defense, defense... always comes down to defense... nobody knows, but Lee and Frye play D. Qrich plays D. But defense is the Knick's biggest problem. No clever answer here for that.
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7/16/2006  10:44 AM
jsut a quick note, I believe Zeke was booted out of the first round in each of his years, they were in the ECF the year before I think under Bird.

But the merits of the system were demonstrated by the ability of the youngest team in the nba grasping it to steadily increasing wins, once earning the best record in the east at the all star break.

Isiah made a good point to clyde when clyde questioned how Curry can't "have it" being in the league 5 years already and Zeke pointed out when he got o'neil in indiana he was in the league 5 years and was averaging 4 pts and 5 boards a game.

Then this offense made him an all star.

He expects the same from Curry.
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Posted by rvhoss:

jsut a quick note, I believe Zeke was booted out of the first round in each of his years, they were in the ECF the year before I think under Bird.

But the merits of the system were demonstrated by the ability of the youngest team in the nba grasping it to steadily increasing wins, once earning the best record in the east at the all star break.

Isiah made a good point to clyde when clyde questioned how Curry can't "have it" being in the league 5 years already and Zeke pointed out when he got o'neil in indiana he was in the league 5 years and was averaging 4 pts and 5 boards a game.

Then this offense made him an all star.

He expects the same from Curry.

ONeal was straight out of HS on a title contender which featured a frontcourt of some of the NBA's best big men at the time.

Curry has been getting opportunity and minutes since yr 2.

not even close.

as for the antfarm analogy, ants work with a collective mind. humans generally don't. the way Jalen sees the play may not be the way Steph see the play. A slow thinker like Curry may be used to seeing the ball come 1 way at 1 speed from Marbury and then is being asked in any given instant to read and react to a totaly different player. the chance of a turnover or broken play increases 10 fold with this ideology.

you get those rare blurps where a team is successful without a strong lead playmaker but ususally they have an overwhelming variable in some other aspect of the game. recent history: the 04 Pistons and 00 Ravens come to mind.
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7/16/2006  11:56 AM
Isiah Thomas lost to Philly who went to the finals his first yr coaching. And the Nets who went to the finals that yr. His 3rd yr with that system implemented they started 13-2(Which Jamal Tinsley only played 2games of for a total of 7mins. I think that had to do with his mother dieng). Then then went 37-15. It wasn't until, Miller got injured. Artest got suspended. J'Oneals step father shot himself mins before J'Oneal stepped in the house. Austin Croshere had a death in his family or some thing as well. And when J'Oneals father died, it hit Tinlsey hard since he was recovering from his mother dieing earlier in the yr. Which had that team in total dissaray. They finished 48-34. And lost to the Celtics in teh first rd of the playoffs.

Isiah Thomas turned J'Oneal & Brad Miller into allstars. And Ron Artest was a player that was good at a lot of things. But great at nothing until Isiah Thomas took him from the Bulls. Though can't give Isiah to much credit since it was Artest 3rd yr which is usually the break out yr.

For those saying that they fear Marbury, Rose, Franchise, Taylor, Q not buying into the system and complaining about mins. Guess what. They have NO choice. There isn't a power struggle between GM & Coach. If they don't buy in then they don't play. And if they complain then they will be buried. And guys like Nate & Crawford & Collins & Balkman will be more than willing to take those extra mins. Be more than servicable, and keep it moving. This offensive system is Isiah's baby. He isn't going to let any player ruin it. Not even his neighbor Marbury. Plus his job and his name is on the line. If he fails he would be a complete embarrassment. If he succeeds media will then back off trashing him for a little while. You could tell he already brought that sense of urgency to the team to.

But im not worried about there even being a problem with guys complaining(Unless we start losing alot). We like to bring up peoples track records in order to fortcast what things could happen in the future. But were forgeting Isiah Thomas track record when it comes to dealing with his players as a coach. Which is they absolutly love playing for him. And he gets people to listen and follow him. He is one of those smooth talkes. That you just gotta listen to. And by the end of the day your going to be doing what he wants you to do. He knows how to get players to want to do what he says. He had J'Oneal threatening not to resign if Isiah Thomas wasn't kept as coach when Bird took over. And Bird had to lie to him to keep him. He told Marbury he was the worst defensive pg in the league like it was nothing. And Marbury took it in no problemo, and worked harder on it. Though it lasted a few games. Hes that legend with a swagger that makes todays players love him.

So to counter any doomsdayers. There is easily the possibility of good things that could happen this season as there is the possibility of bad things.
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Posted by McK1:
Posted by rvhoss:

jsut a quick note, I believe Zeke was booted out of the first round in each of his years, they were in the ECF the year before I think under Bird.

But the merits of the system were demonstrated by the ability of the youngest team in the nba grasping it to steadily increasing wins, once earning the best record in the east at the all star break.

Isiah made a good point to clyde when clyde questioned how Curry can't "have it" being in the league 5 years already and Zeke pointed out when he got o'neil in indiana he was in the league 5 years and was averaging 4 pts and 5 boards a game.

Then this offense made him an all star.

He expects the same from Curry.

ONeal was straight out of HS on a title contender which featured a frontcourt of some of the NBA's best big men at the time.

Curry has been getting opportunity and minutes since yr 2.

not even close.

as for the antfarm analogy, ants work with a collective mind. humans generally don't. the way Jalen sees the play may not be the way Steph see the play. A slow thinker like Curry may be used to seeing the ball come 1 way at 1 speed from Marbury and then is being asked in any given instant to read and react to a totaly different player. the chance of a turnover or broken play increases 10 fold with this ideology.

you get those rare blurps where a team is successful without a strong lead playmaker but ususally they have an overwhelming variable in some other aspect of the game. recent history: the 04 Pistons and 00 Ravens come to mind.

Gotta agree with Mcki on the O'neal to Curry comparison. Though you would think O'neal would still get 20+mins a game or something. He really had to have given up and showed the coaches less effort thinking he was buried for life at that young age or something.

O'neal though he didn't get time was allways an athletic freak who was a stud rebounder/shotblocker. Whos offensive game grew under Isiah. With playing time and coaching. Curry still needs to develop his rebounding which I doubt he ever becomes a stud in that area though he has the size and aqility and athletism to average 12 a game. And he still needs to work on his offenisve game. I don't think he will EVER be a stud shotblocker as I don't know if he has those instincts. If Isiah could somehow get him to care about rebounding and develop his offensive game(*glup* to the level where he could even hit a 15fter *gulp* to go along with a couple jump hooks)then it would be his greatest accomplishmnet as a coach. And could lead him to the most success.
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Posted by newyorknewyork:


Gotta agree with Mcki on the O'neal to Curry comparison. Though you would think O'neal would still get 20+mins a game or something. He really had to have given up and showed the coaches less effort thinking he was buried for life at that young age or something.

O'neal though he didn't get time was allways an athletic freak who was a stud rebounder/shotblocker. Whos offensive game grew under Isiah. With playing time and coaching. Curry still needs to develop his rebounding which I doubt he ever becomes a stud in that area though he has the size and aqility and athletism to average 12 a game. And he still needs to work on his offenisve game. I don't think he will EVER be a stud shotblocker as I don't know if he has those instincts. If Isiah could somehow get him to care about rebounding and develop his offensive game(*glup* to the level where he could even hit a 15fter *gulp* to go along with a couple jump hooks)then it would be his greatest accomplishmnet as a coach. And could lead him to the most success.

I agree, as well, that Curry doesn't bring the same fortitude as Jermaine O'Neal. Nor are the circumstances of Curry's career the same as O'Neal's. However, Curry has the body to be a beast in the league. If he is working on his stamina and he is in shape, it is possible that he can contribute 20pts and 8 rebs. In a quick offense, having 3 or 4 players with high scoring potential is truly an asset because there are more shots to be had. And, more offensive threats puts greater pressure on the opposing defense. Curry needs exactly what you said, a 15ft jump shot. However he scores in the post doesn't matter to me. He just needs to be an offensive threat where ever he is on the court. Rebounding is probably more important.
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7/16/2006  5:21 PM
Curry vs. O'Neal, pre-Isiah? Yes, Curry had more opportunity, but it's not like he averaged 5 and 3. People love to make like he's some McDonald's-eating slob but the guy has some accomplishments in the league that a young Jermaine would have died for -- averaged 15 ppg+, led the league in FG% over a full season, and started for a playoff team, none of which J O'Neal was anywhere close to doing in his first few years.

Just b/c he wasn't worth two lottery picks doesn't mean he's the fat slob people make him out to be. And I'm not saying he will be as good as J O'neal, he has plenty of limitations...but he doesn't suck and he should get better.
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7/17/2006  12:23 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

To start the other team has to deal with our offense, which will have starters and will be set pretty much in stone.

So to start the other team will have to deal with our starters? That's pure f***ing genius.

Tell us, what else would the other team have to deal with at the start, other than our starters???
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Posted by rvhoss:

It's not about wins in summer league, it's about how we won, they have been playing offense...in one sequence aguire was calling names, saying do this do that do this do that and voila, they scored, then again on the defensive end, voila turn over.

Then he stopped talking and the quality play continued, and this was with nate, balkman and lee on the bench.

Wow, it's that easy? All a coach has to do in this system is talk and they can score and create turnovers at will.

And it's great to know that this quality play is being done by players that will be playing in Europe and the NBDL, if they're lucky, this year.

You know the famous quote by Abraham Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

When it comes to basketball, and most things in general, you've left absolutely no doubt.
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by rvhoss:

To start the other team has to deal with our offense, which will have starters and will be set pretty much in stone.

So to start the other team will have to deal with our starters? That's pure f***ing genius.

Tell us, what else would the other team have to deal with at the start, other than our starters???

Have you considered reading with the intent to understand rather than the intent to criticize? You might as well grab a pen and pencil and make a list of all the grammatical errors on the site; that would be more useful than critical posts like this.
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7/17/2006  12:37 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by rvhoss:

It's not about wins in summer league, it's about how we won, they have been playing offense...in one sequence aguire was calling names, saying do this do that do this do that and voila, they scored, then again on the defensive end, voila turn over.

Then he stopped talking and the quality play continued, and this was with nate, balkman and lee on the bench.

Wow, it's that easy? All a coach has to do in this system is talk and they can score and create turnovers at will.

And it's great to know that this quality play is being done by players that will be playing in Europe and the NBDL, if they're lucky, this year.

You know the famous quote by Abraham Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

When it comes to basketball, and most things in general, you've left absolutely no doubt.

Honestly, now you are just name calling.

[Edited by - ewingsglass on 07-17-2006 12:37 AM]
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7/17/2006  10:24 AM
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