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Jackie B. is only 21 and has exceptional upside.. where would you have chosen him in the 2006 draft?
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fishmike
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7/13/2006  6:36 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Best five play was authored by Red Auerbach
lol... he didnt have to coach Marbury and Francis

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joec32033
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7/13/2006  7:25 PM
Jackie Butler is the American Sofoklis Schortsanitis.
http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/sophoclesschortsianitis.htm

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/jackiebutler.asp-look what I dug up....
NBA Comparison: Antonio Davis

Strength: A real physical specimen at the tender age of 19. Has slimed down and built muscle. His strength allows him to put himself wherever he wants in the post.. Has great hands downlow and anything that goes his way he gets ahold of. His post game is developing, if he can improve in this area, he's got a chance to be a 12 year NBA player. Very athletic and gets down the court pretty well for a big man when he wants to. Looks like a young Elton Brand the way he hits the offensive boards and finds position for rebounds. His huge wingspan (7 foot) makes him a bigger player than he is.

Weaknesses: Post game is still very raw and needs work. In high school he could use his strength to get whenever he needed to (that won't be the case in the NBA). Footwork also needs improvement.... Could have done himself some good by going to college however he should still be drafted. At times he's very inconsistent and lazy on defense, especially in transition. Needs to work harder and get into better shape.

Note: He is 19 years old, he attended a prep school for 1 year.

-Rob Salvador (Draftcamp warrior) -- 6/16/04

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Butler is a physical monster standing 6-9, 255 pounds but he doesn’t use it to his advantage. He is extremely slow and doesn’t pick up his feet when going back in transition. He is inconsistent on defense as well. Memo to Jackie: Plant yourself on the block, hit the weights, and get some elevation. If he does that, then we will be talking about a force.

To Butler’s credit, he does show flashes of brilliance. He knows he’s bigger than everyone at the high school level. But the SEC is a different story. When he attends Mississippi State, he’ll have an opportunity to play on a good team with promising players and in a conference that produces good power forwards. The future is ultimately in Butler’s hands.

-Justin Young


In 03, this guy went 34. I would put Butler somewhere between 20 and the mid to early second round., considering this draft was more of a need based draft after the first eight picks as opposed to a talent based draft.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 07-13-2006 7:33 PM]
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7/13/2006  7:36 PM
honestly, ditto.
Posted by TMS:

i woulda taken him w/the #20 pick.

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7/13/2006  7:41 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

honestly, ditto.
Posted by TMS:

i woulda taken him w/the #20 pick.


i wonder what the reaction would have been if Isiah had taken Jackie #20 in this year's draft & passed over Marcus Williams.
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7/13/2006  7:47 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by rvhoss:

honestly, ditto.
Posted by TMS:

i woulda taken him w/the #20 pick.


i wonder what the reaction would have been if Isiah had taken Jackie #20 in this year's draft & passed over Marcus Williams.

Interesting question. I don't think it would have been too bad considering his raw potential and size(whereas Balkman is an undersized SF or SG).
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7/13/2006  8:03 PM
I kinds like the feelgood story of picking Jackie up from the trash. I hope he stays. 3 years 7 mill is a good price I feel for his age.

I think based on Jackie's upside, He goes before Simmons, Armstrong, O'Bryant and possibly Sene. Can't predict a pick, but I think teams would have taken a risk on Jackie before those other players, if he was at the level he is now.
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7/13/2006  11:08 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by TMS:
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Posted by unstopaball12:

id give him 12 million 4 yrs

[Edited by - unstopaball12 on 07-13-2006 10:24 AM]


Me too. Worst case scenario, hes a SOLID backup center for 4 years.
$3M per is worth it. We have paid/are paying a lot of bums more money
than that for much less performance: Travis Knight, Luc Longley, Dudley, JJ.


why on earth would u want to overpay like that when all you need to do is match SA's 3 year $7 mil offer to retain him?

Not saying we have to. Of course you do the cheapest possible deal. Just saying if it came down to it, I'd be willing to give him that.
That's not how it works. He's a restricted FA. If NY matches the 3 yr. $7 mil offer, he is contractually OBLIGATED to accept it and stay in NY whether he wants to or not.
Jackie B. is only 21 and has exceptional upside.. where would you have chosen him in the 2006 draft?

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