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Butler? Woods? No...... ITS UDOKA!!!!!!!!!!!
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BlueSeats
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7/8/2006  11:38 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Bad move for two key reasons.

1 - even if he's sent to the d-league he counts as one of our 15 man roster.
2 - even if he's cut his salary comes out of our MLE and LLE exceptions, making it that much more difficult to re-sign Butler and Woods, or anyone else.

Ime seems to be the least of our problems/solutions.

Who's his agent? I smell an owed favor....

[quote]No it doesn't, that option was done last season. It has no affect on this years exceptions.

Please elaborate.

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7/8/2006  11:43 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Anji:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Bad move for two key reasons.

1 - even if he's sent to the d-league he counts as one of our 15 man roster.
2 - even if he's cut his salary comes out of our MLE and LLE exceptions, making it that much more difficult to re-sign Butler and Woods, or anyone else.

Ime seems to be the least of our problems/solutions.

Who's his agent? I smell an owed favor....

[quote]No it doesn't, that option was done last season. It has no affect on this years exceptions.

Please elaborate.

I'm not sure what he's talking about, but if Udoka is signed to the league minimum it would not affect the LLE or the MLE.

Also, this does not rule out using Jackie Butler in a S&T with another team, either a two for one trade that gets our ammount of contracts down or a 2 for 2 where we waive some schlub we get back. But to me this move does imply that a trade of some sort is in the works, you don't sign Udoka after you've already held onto to Jackie's restricted free agency rights with 15 guaranteed deals unless there is a plan to deal some of them.
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7/9/2006  7:29 AM
Qyntel Woods has a chance to be a player in this league, but he was Larry's guy - so he's gone and we're stuck with what's his name.
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7/9/2006  12:28 PM
I don't think it's a bad move bringing Udoka back for another year at the league minimum. he showed he could contribute last year, and if he doesn't do well at all this year he can be cut at any time without affecting us much money wise. and this also does not keep us from signing butler, woods or both of them imo. u can cut guys like Mo Taylor to create roster space for someone.

[Edited by - TMat614 on 07-09-2006 12:29 PM]
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7/9/2006  12:40 PM
Posted by Ira:

Qyntel Woods has a chance to be a player in this league, but he was Larry's guy - so he's gone and we're stuck with what's his name.

Isiah would be foolish to pass over Woods that easily, man I hope you're wrong. While his defense wasn't anything to write home about, Q2 is our most promising sf.

Size, improved shooting throughout the year, athleticsm and young. Stop playing Richardson out of position at the 3 also- We can't have undersized guys at both wing positions (assuming either Francis or Marbury start at the 2).

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7/9/2006  1:18 PM
Posted by TMat614:

I don't think it's a bad move bringing Udoka back for another year at the league minimum. he showed he could contribute last year, and if he doesn't do well at all this year he can be cut at any time without affecting us much money wise. and this also does not keep us from signing butler, woods or both of them imo. u can cut guys like Mo Taylor to create roster space for someone.

[Edited by - TMat614 on 07-09-2006 12:29 PM]

see, I don't understand this. Marbury, Francis, Q, JRose, Nate, Crawfor, Collins, Balkman all can fill the SG/PG. And you think Udoka is a good idea to have around? At age 29 and just coming out of the CBA?

The Knicks have 1 roster spot left.

The upside of having Udoka is VERY slim. Almost negligible. The upside of keeping an expiring contract like MoT can be very nice around trade deadline time (1st rounder or filler for another piece).

Don't make sense to me.
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7/9/2006  1:22 PM
I have seen nothing that I like of this kid. Nothing. His handle and shot look awkward. I would much prefer Woods or Butler to him. And to make it worse, he plays a position we are overstocked at.
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7/9/2006  1:57 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMat614:

I don't think it's a bad move bringing Udoka back for another year at the league minimum. he showed he could contribute last year, and if he doesn't do well at all this year he can be cut at any time without affecting us much money wise. and this also does not keep us from signing butler, woods or both of them imo. u can cut guys like Mo Taylor to create roster space for someone.

[Edited by - TMat614 on 07-09-2006 12:29 PM]

see, I don't understand this. Marbury, Francis, Q, JRose, Nate, Crawfor, Collins, Balkman all can fill the SG/PG. And you think Udoka is a good idea to have around? At age 29 and just coming out of the CBA?

The Knicks have 1 roster spot left.

The upside of having Udoka is VERY slim. Almost negligible. The upside of keeping an expiring contract like MoT can be very nice around trade deadline time (1st rounder or filler for another piece).

Don't make sense to me.

Players are signed all the time for the league minimume to play for a team to get a look during the pre season. Many of them end up being cut. Picking up his minimum option doesn't mean he will be here when the regular season starts. Since they are cheap, its not going to affect you money wise very much if he's cut. And i also didn't say it was a great move, i just said it isn't bad.

and also, we have a glut of people at PF (Frye, Lee, Malik, and sometimes Balkman against smaller, faster teams like the suns.) Mo Taylor isn't going to play much, Isiah plans on setting a rotation of 9 or 10. we still get cap relief after the season. And Dolan doesn't seem to want more money on the payroll. also i wasn't singling out Mo, players like him meaning vets that don't play defense and will not play much, taking up a roster space.
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7/9/2006  5:19 PM
Well' that explains it much better. I wasn't aware of that! Thanks!
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7/9/2006  6:29 PM
Posted by 4949:

Well' that explains it much better. I wasn't aware of that! Thanks!


Are you talking to me?
what were you not "aware" of? more like maybe what you don't think is correct.
Butler? Woods? No...... ITS UDOKA!!!!!!!!!!!

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