Posted by fishmike:

no way thats the line up. You think with everything he gave up for Curry that he's not starting?

Good point, but I think you need both Lee and Balkman to cover up the Ambiguously Gay Duo. Curry just does not have enough D for this.

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by fishmike:

no way thats the line up. You think with everything he gave up for Curry that he's not starting?

Good point, but I think you need both Lee and Balkman to cover up the Ambiguously Gay Duo. Curry just does not have enough D for this.

dont worry about it. Francis wont be here. If nothing else he's just going to take minutes from Isiah's hand picked guys

Posted by Travla:

Francis will be fine if they keep him, the backcourt will be Francis and Marbs with Jamal, Nate backing them up. Collins will get little or no time, in fact Collins, Francis or Nate could be traded. They are carrying 5 guards and 3 other guys (JRose, QWoods, QRich) who can play guard if needed. We'll just have to wait and see what's up!!

then lets go get Zach Randolph and KMart to round out the frontcourt. Should be a good mix

Posted by franco12:


My big problem with LB was he didn't try to exploit his roster's talent.

Exactly. Without cap flexibility, you need to coach the team you have and create a gameplan that utilizes the teams strengths. Those strengths don't seem to include defense, 3 pt shooting, or free throw shooting (not sure much of what is left...). But, athleticism, open court play, and getting to the basket do seem to be strengths. I dounbt this is a championship caliber team, but they can at least play to their strengths so we aren't embarassed.

i dont want to give up on him yet but i think jamal is really improving and would like to see him out there more, Steve just doesent have a place on the team but i think he will flurish with isiah this yaer if we keep him

Is Duane Wade a me-first player?

I actually would be willing to termi-nate (get it!) the Nate Robinson experiment and use him to move somebody like Malik Rose or Jerome James off the roster...or even to package with one of our expiring contracts for someone useful. I see Nate as the least talented of the point guards and physically, the least capable of helping the team. Don't get me wrong, I love his spirit and those dunks, it gives hope to a generation of short people, but he needs to show a lot more improvement in passing the ball to be effective in this league. So, my PG/SG rotation is: Marb/Fran/Craw (32 mins each); Collins can get garbage minutes this year unless he shows some serious ability that we are unaware of.

Posted by misterearl:

Is Duane Wade a me-first player?

The thing is you are allowed to be a me first player in the NBA. But if your a me first type of player. It is an absolute MUST that you are cappable of carring a team on you back. If your cappable of taking over games consistantly, hitting clutch shots, making clutch plays & play defense. Then you are allowed to be a me first player.

If you are not cappable of doing those things consistantly. Then you gotta be a player that looks to make everyone else better. If your caught in the middle then your in trouble.

Pat Ewing was a me first player and damn if he wasn't carrying the Knicks @$$ into the playoffs every year. This bull**** of playing the right way is a load of crap. There is no right way or wrong way as long as the results are wins. I could care less if the kNicks win pretty or ugly as long as the results are Wins.

Problem with the KNicks is that they lack focal points on the team. To much talent isn't a very good thing to have you can only have three very good players at best nowadays. The days of 5 or 6 great players on the team are long gone because players no longer want to put their ego aside and produce less in the statistic dept. In this league stats=Dollars the better the stats the more the money, can't blame players for wanting to shoot more and have the ball in thier hands more than others. Thats why I believe the Balkman pick was a stroke genius on Isiah's part. Role players to place around very good players make it easy for the team to have focal point on offense. Balkman in his right will be a focal point on defense. I think the Knicks need to make a move to a running style and increase shot attempts to keep everyone happy on the team. But if the kNicks are going to be more of a balanced attack then I would suggest getting rid of the clutter at the guard position and the PF position and allow players to grow and play more minutes. For instance I really don't see the need for the Knicks to carry every position three deep. There shouold be a group of 3-5 players that never see the light of day on the team. Last year was an absolute joke because the team had to many players that required Playing time and to appease these players they were getting run for less than 30 minutes a night. Thats absolutely crazy because players like their stats and they like their court time.

Players that need to be gone:
Nate Robinson
Mo Taylor
Malik Rose
Jalen Rose
Steve Francis
Q-Rich

All these guys need to be gone. The starting lineup for next year:
Frye pf
Balkman sf
Curry C
Crawford sg
Marbury pg

Backups:
Collins pg
JJ C
Butler C
Lee PF
Q-Woods sf




[Edited by - Vmart on 07-02-2006 3:41 PM]

It would seem a natural inference from the defense of "me first" players like Dwayne Wade is that he has proven he can carry a team. Unlike Dwayne, none of the current Knick players seem so capable. Neither Marbury nor Francis can do it. Crawford alone seems like the most capable, and I base this remote possibility on his performances in the last 10 or so games of the season. Even then,they didn't win very much so I have my doubts.