Posted by nyk4ever:

Oh no! Pharezone thinks he's a better poster then everyone on this board becasue he said big words like "IMO half of these so call posters don't eve watch games" please get over yourself, your opinion isn't always right. Why don't you try having a real conversation with people instead of bashing them. All I stated was that I was playing devils advocate and all you could do was diss me. Way to go man.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 06-24-2006 02:15 AM]

Posted by McK1:

and in the play-offs year 3 of Isiah's tenure when they were bombed out the gym by 6th seed Boston, those guys looked like strangers out there for the most part of that series. IMO he lost most of those guys.
[Edited by - McK1 on 06-24-2006 08:35 AM]

In the end, Brown admitted he had to beg players to play. Thomas shouldn't have that problem. During his three seasons with Indiana, he established strong relationships with many players, starting with his star, Jermaine O'Neal. Unlike Brown, he rarely knocked players and, in return, got their loyalty. Still, he never got the Pacers out of the first round of the playoffs, including his final season when they were the higher seed and lost in six games to the Celtics.

"But that year, we had a lot of the same problems we had this season with our team," said Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh. "We had lot of internal, chemistry-type things that were going on that were not Isiah's fault. So I don't blame him for what happened."

Posted by rvhoss:

Once again, you going to take McK1's (i.e. hater) opinion on that last year in indiana,

Bird blames Carlisle - HIS GUY - for losing the team this past season.

Bird blamed Isiah for the teams failing particularly in year 3.

you ride with the politician I'll go with the tells it like it is guy

Everyone knew all along that he should have replaced Don Chaney, but he chased some idiotic notion that he had to wear a suit every day to spit-polish his legacy and regain his self-esteem