Posted by Marv:

i like th8is one:

"This totally rules.

A few years ago, I created the Antoine Walker All-Stars. The team was composed of talented players who were so clueless about basketball that they killed their team. In fact, I believe a talented player like Walker is worse than a non-factor like, say, Eric Snow.

Anyway, the AW All-Stars had this lineup:

Stephan Marbury
Steve Francis
Jalen Rose
Antoine Walker
Eddy Curry

Coach: Isiah Thomas

At that point, the only player on the Knicks was Marbury. But slowly, piece by piece, the team has been assembled like Captain Planet.

Today, I am proud to annouce another step towards the impossible dream. The only logical conclusion is that the Knicks will trade for Walker in the offseason.

I also argued that that team would go 0-82. So I might have to eat my words. I never thought this would actually be possible.

So please, Isiah: trade for Antoine. The Antoine Walker All-Stars is your destiny. Follow the advice of your buddy Spike Lee and Do The Right Thing."

Walker & Francis have always been the 2 players I hate most so this is frickin hilarious!

you guys are crazy...what is the difference between playing on the teams you mentioend and sticking it out here in New York?

I'd rather have the collection we have of players that fit multiple roles than the Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, Shaq/Wade dream scenario you are all begging for.

Who is shaq on the pistons? Who is Kobe/Wade?

This team is a collection of players that will understand their roles.

Gasol? I say Frye. I'm sorry, I just think marbury can and will play better with Crawford, Curry and Frye than MikeMiller, Battier and Gasol.
I must be out of my mind, because Miller, Battier and Gasol? Role player, role player and first year all star?

Why can't you put that much faith in your own players?

To say we need a star in the worst way is Starphucking at it's finest DJ and you are advocating it with every post you make.

Why not go with our own talent?

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-23-2006 12:39 PM]

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-23-2006 12:41 PM]

where are we supposed to get these players?

Is there someone in this year's draft that we lost out on that is Jordan, Duncan or hakeem?

About as good as Curry or Frye being that player. Or are you convinced completely that there is no chance in the world that Curry or Channing Frye can be an elite player, but someone who you have no idea exists yet (or atleast haven't provided a name) has a better chance at it.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-23-2006 12:49 PM]

Posted by rvhoss:

where are we supposed to get these players?

Is there someone in this year's draft that we lost out on that is Jordan, Duncan or hakeem?

probably... there usually are in every draft. Is it a given you get one? Of course not, but we do know you need to be in it to have a shot. But make no mistake, we gave up a shot at a franchise player when we made the Curry deal. Go through the draft history... more star players come out of the top 5 picks then anywhere else. Whats Morrison's downside? Carmello? Chris Mullin? This guy is going to be a monster scorer in this league and he's got brass balls. Hell... I would rather have Sheldon Williams then Eddie Curry.

Nobody can plan to draft a superstar, but you can structure your trades to ensure you dont miss a shot at one. Its called checks and balances. Isiah should have realized there was a chance, no matter how slim that last year could have gone bad and given those picks some protection. At least top 5 and top 3 for next year. Thats still a good deal and beter than ANYTHING else Chi had on the table for a player they KNEW they had to move or lose for nothing.

dumb dumb dumb

Posted by fishmike:

at least with Channing Frye we are talking about how far his skills can take him. With Curry (after 5 years in the league) we are hoping he shows up under 300 lbs.

Pretty lame

and it's not just one year of showing up in shape. it's being in shape for the duration of his contract. he could come in at 280 next season and then 310 the following. it will always be a concern for him.

Posted by rvhoss:

Atleast you guys are giving me Channing Frye.

That's all I ask, dont' give up on us having that all star player currently on our roster.

The draft class he came up in respects him, so they will follow his lead.

I believe more in Channing being that player than anybody coming out this and next year. Curry would be gravy, if both rise to the occasion, we will be in the finals.

nodoby can disagree with that statement.

if both Curry and Frye live/play up to their potential, we will be in the finals.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by fishmike:

at least with Channing Frye we are talking about how far his skills can take him. With Curry (after 5 years in the league) we are hoping he shows up under 300 lbs.

Pretty lame

and it's not just one year of showing up in shape. it's being in shape for the duration of his contract. he could come in at 280 next season and then 310 the following. it will always be a concern for him.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-23-2006 1:16 PM]

We can't disagree because we are astonished!

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by rvhoss:

where are we supposed to get these players?

Is there someone in this year's draft that we lost out on that is Jordan, Duncan or hakeem?

probably... there usually are in every draft. Is it a given you get one? Of course not, but we do know you need to be in it to have a shot. But make no mistake, we gave up a shot at a franchise player when we made the Curry deal. Go through the draft history... more star players come out of the top 5 picks then anywhere else. Whats Morrison's downside? Carmello? Chris Mullin? This guy is going to be a monster scorer in this league and he's got brass balls. Hell... I would rather have Sheldon Williams then Eddie Curry.

Nobody can plan to draft a superstar, but you can structure your trades to ensure you dont miss a shot at one. Its called checks and balances. Isiah should have realized there was a chance, no matter how slim that last year could have gone bad and given those picks some protection. At least top 5 and top 3 for next year. Thats still a good deal and beter than ANYTHING else Chi had on the table for a player they KNEW they had to move or lose for nothing.

dumb dumb dumb

Well if the Knicks wasn't in training camp mode all year because of their former coach then it wouldn't look so bad. Some how I think that was Larry's plan to discredit Zeke's trade for Curry so he can have his way. While the trade was not a good one, I believe no one on this earth thought the Knicks would SUCK this bad.

Is there someone in this year's draft that we lost out on that is Jordan, Duncan or hakeem?

Is there someone in this year's draft that we lost out on that is Jordan, Duncan or hakeem?

Not really... most drafts have at least one superstar player, even if its not obvious at the time. And he asked if there was a Duncan, Jordan or Hakeem. He didnt ask if there are all 3. Go through each draft, its a fair statement. Most drafts have at last a couple of guys you can build a team around.

FYI if you think Morrison is just a pure shooter you havent seen him play. As for the crying part its an ******* statement you just made. If the Knick players had an ounce of the heart Morrison has we would have won 60 games last year. Imaging putting so much work into something and playing so hard that you just cant accept defeat to the point where it literally breaks you. Yea... we dont need guys like that.