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Posted by OAK:

20 and 29 for Smith and 43


Its simple deduction-- this team is bad--they way out is by acquiring multiple young assets at this time--staying away from older-expensive players unless its a $-$ swap--this kid is a strong 6-6 multi-dimensional/skill player with top notch NBA athletic ability and long arms.



JR Smith is a player--i believe that has enormous upside and fills the bill of what i would be looking for physically in a 2G--i cant worry about the mental maturation process at this point, i have to assume that this kid is growing up[ and thats a problem with a lot of preps to pros] and that he has had some learning curves in NO. I think wed be getting him on the dirt cheap. I think pick 20 by itself could get the job done.


there is no doubt in my mind that if this kid was coming out of NC this year--hed be a top 3 pick--so the value if we can get him with 20 --is a good move---

we need a PG like marcus Williams you add JR smiths Q woods Frye's Lee---etc a pass first craft big PG like Williams makes all of these guys better--would make JR Smith look like a young Jerry Stackhouse with better FG%

a) if he's as good as you think, why would NO dump him?

b) maybe he's not as good as you think, maybe he's Deshawn Steven son, the sequel

Bring in another guy that doesn't really play defense, has a huge ego, and doesn't get along with his coach?

Look, he's got talent and in the right environment the guy could thrive. It's a pretty good deal in terms of risk/reward but I think we should concentrate all our efforts on bringing in guys that change the culture/attitude around here. We need hard workers who know how to win.

Put JR Smith on a team with a solid coach and guys that play to win and he develops into an allstar. Put him on the Knicks and he causes more turmoil and plays for his stats.

I think i would prefer to trade Nate with one of our picks than trade both picks for Smith. I think IT should get a chance to draft someone who fits in with our team. A Boone or Collins type.

Jr smith looked good in year one. Byron Scott is old school so he probably was trying to make Jr pay his dues. Maybe Jr thought he could get veteran treatment at age 20.

That's my take on it cuz Jr was awesome in his first year. Knicks would be lucky to hey him but what does that mean? What direction are the knicks going into? The knicks have some contracts that are just not gonna go away.

Posted by djsunyc:

would you guys do an eddy curry for jr smith + #12 + #15?

Man, I tell you what, I'd really have to think long and hard about this one... Good call. I might.

Posted by Finestrg:

Posted by djsunyc:

would you guys do an eddy curry for jr smith + #12 + #15?

Man, I tell you what, I'd really have to think long and hard about this one... Good call. I might.

Only problem is the money doesn't work. It'd have to be a sign and trade-type deal. Would you lock up Smith long term, a la Crawford, at about 7-8 mil. per to make it work? That's the question.

It might not be a good idea to pretend we know the level of interest each GM had in Eddy Curry. I agree his trade value is shot right now, though.

We're always gonna have to make deals for guys with ? marks. At least for a little while longer. Heck the guy at the heart of this thread is a risky move. Its not the best way to do things, but in our case it may be the only way until we get past Steph's contract.

The important thing is that we try to find players that will help this team. Guys who have more BB IQ than some of the guys we've gotten in the past. I like the talent this guy has, but JR doesn't seem to have the BB IQ that i'd like from the players we add from now on. That's why I liked the Frye pick cuz he was a guy who was prepared to play in this league and I hope for him to become a team leader one day.