Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by fishmike:

what I envision is an ultra long and fast lineup with Josh Smith, Lee, Crawford and Frye playing together with either a playmaker or a banger.

Nothing I wouldnt give up to get Josh here. If both #1's and Francis doesnt get it done (along w/ cash) you start reaching. I dont know what else we have that's desirable. Frye? I would do it. I think Frye is a more replaceable player than Josh Smith. In one more year Smith will be totally unreachable, so its now or never.

Agreed DJ... to me this is about taking a shot at a young budding star, which is what I see JS as.

i would trade frye for josh smith also.
and i may be in the minority here...but i may also trade him for tyrus thomas who would be a much better fit next to eddy.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by tkf:

fish, that si not bad, but you are putting a lot of stock in Josh smith, He has turned out better than I thought, but I don't think the guy is as good as you think he is or is going to be... I watch him play a lot here in Atlanta, He is a very athletic player who can block shots, but if Atlanta does not bite on francis and two first round picks, than I would not offer any more, that is a lot...

BTW: Francis is liked a lot here in Atlanta, they like Joe Johnson, but there is a feeling that they overpaid for him, especially watching Diaw do his thing, they would love to have a steve francis here...

I don't know about josh smith, i would take him here, but at what price?

I attend both Hawk and Knick games (I work out of both cities for the majority of my time). I associated with many true blue Hawk fans and DJ and Fish are by far the biggest Josh Smith fans that I know of. But I won't knock them because many people in Atlanta were only too happy to get rid of Diaw including many within the organization. They gave up on Terry too. I don't know if Smith will be the star that Fish thinks but I am with him on this trade. It sounds great to say but like the Knicks GM and those in the past I guess Knick fans have the same problem. How does a Francis + picks work out salary wise. Isn't Francis a max player?

you can add briggs to that list also, he was very high on josh smith. I had been a hawks season ticket holder when they had terry, and last season I attended 15 games, the Hawks fans want a name star on the team, they let go of terry and rahim, when the real problem was that they didn't surround them with good enough players, they had sheed and then gave him to the pistons, instead of trying to get talent for him, for the hawks it has over the past few years, always been about money, and that is why they made such bad deals... Then when they decide to throw money at a player, they go overboard with Joe johnson, but hey, it could of been Kenyon martin, had he even gotten on a plane to come to visit atlanta, he turned down the visit.. pompous prick.... Anyway, we would have to take somthing back from the hawks other than Josh, or maybe trade one of the picks and francis, because the first round picks are guaranteed money... The problem is other than joe Johnson, no other hawk makes enough money...