Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by holfresh:



He forced a trade because he thought he should still should have been the team's nucleus...He was pissed at JVG because of this...Fans and media was riding him because he didn't want to accept his deminsihed roll...



[Edited by - holfresh on 05-26-2006 4:26 PM]

He was so mad at JVG that he accepted a assistant coaching job under him!

Well Jeff had to return the favor...After all, Jeff would not have gotten the Knick job after Riles if Ewing didn't push for it...

I dont know Hollie, theres alot of If's and But's in that argument. Possible? Maybe. Ewing pulling a stunt? Unlikely. It seems to me that you just go against everything that everyone else is for so you can create controversey.. just a assumption though.

I'm at a loss here...Do you know why Ewing was traded?

Posted by holfresh:



I'm at a loss here...Do you know why Ewing was traded?

Because Scott Layden, like most other New York fans felt the Knicks were better off without him becuase Ewing was old and slowing down the offense more then ever. Instead of letting his contract run out, Layden felt it would be better to trade him instead of him rotting on the bench. Thats why Ewing was traded.

I was a season ticket holder at the tike and I had a lot of sympathy for Ewing's request. His hands had turned to stone, his suspect footwork was more evident than ever, and the Garden would collectively groan every time he received a pass. Our noble warrior was on his way to getting the Charles Smith treatment at MSG.

I don't know what kind of role he expected at the time but the league was weak enough at center that he still felt he deserved a role. I don't think his request list was based around clubs that wanted him as their key piece, but possible contenders who needed a big to put them over the hump.

The thing is, requesting a trade is not necessarily a "stunt". for instance, people wouldn't relate to is as such if we got someone, like a jermaine Oneal, who blossomed into an all-star in the deal, or if we traded him for an expiring contract we allowed to expire. As it was the deal included two first round draft picks which might have been put to good use, but i think Layden spent them on Othella and Mark Jackson if i remember correctly.

Turning Rice's relatively short contract into Shandon and Eisley and mis-utilizing the picks was the "stunt" we should regret.

Ewing...okay fine. But I'd love to have a designated enforcer on the staff. Like Laimbeer, Mahorn or even Oak.

Posted by BlueSeats:

I was a season ticket holder at the tike and I had a lot of sympathy for Ewing's request. His hands had turned to stone, his suspect footwork was more evident than ever, and the Garden would collectively groan every time he received a pass. Our noble warrior was on his way to getting the Charles Smith treatment at MSG.

I don't know what kind of role he expected at the time but the league was weak enough at center that he still felt he deserved a role. I don't think his request list was based around clubs that wanted him as their key piece, but possible contenders who needed a big to put them over the hump.

The thing is, requesting a trade is not necessarily a "stunt". for instance, people wouldn't relate to is as such if we got someone, like a jermaine Oneal, who blossomed into an all-star in the deal, or if we traded him for an expiring contract we allowed to expire. As it was the deal included two first round draft picks which might have been put to good use, but i think Layden spent them on Othella and Mark Jackson if i remember correctly.

Turning Rice's relatively short contract into Shandon and Eisley and mis-utilizing the picks was the "stunt" we should regret.

I say stunt because he thought the Knicks would have been lost without him....In his mind at the time, he thought he was still a star...So he thought he would pressure a trade as a payback for not giving him a big contract....

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BlueSeats:

I was a season ticket holder at the tike and I had a lot of sympathy for Ewing's request. His hands had turned to stone, his suspect footwork was more evident than ever, and the Garden would collectively groan every time he received a pass. Our noble warrior was on his way to getting the Charles Smith treatment at MSG.

I don't know what kind of role he expected at the time but the league was weak enough at center that he still felt he deserved a role. I don't think his request list was based around clubs that wanted him as their key piece, but possible contenders who needed a big to put them over the hump.

The thing is, requesting a trade is not necessarily a "stunt". for instance, people wouldn't relate to is as such if we got someone, like a jermaine Oneal, who blossomed into an all-star in the deal, or if we traded him for an expiring contract we allowed to expire. As it was the deal included two first round draft picks which might have been put to good use, but i think Layden spent them on Othella and Mark Jackson if i remember correctly.

Turning Rice's relatively short contract into Shandon and Eisley and mis-utilizing the picks was the "stunt" we should regret.

I say stunt because he thought the Knicks would have been lost without him....In his mind at the time, he thought he was still a star...So he thought he would pressure a trade as a payback for not giving him a big contract....

I just don't think it was as much from pure spite as you'd have it. I think Ewing felt his time was done in NY, and a goodly measure of the fans concurred. However they mostly changed their tune after the fact when we got nothing but bad contracts from the deal.

how about Ewing as a ****in God. an unwordly being ? because right now...who the **** gives a ****?!!!!