Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by Pharzeone:

I vote Pat Riley. A real history of success and continuing

Funny you brought up Riley. I was thinking just yesterday that
he might be the only coach who could possibly be tough enough
for this group (plus he doesn't trash his players in the press).

You guys are really making the players sound like the victims in all of this becuase Larry Brown said negative things in the press. How can anyone that is a fan of this team and has watched the games want to make the players the victims in all of this. Boohoo, the evil Larry Brown insinuated that Georgia Tech wasn't a engineering school. This is an outrage how could Larry Brown say that about someone who has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs!

It's funny but people been saying the same thing about how you guys are treating Brown. I seen some post where they are even apologizing for him. I guess its a matter of prespective. I am with Bonn get rid of all of them but no way do I want Brown having control of this team. The only thing that made that horrible season worth watching was the rookies and Jackie B. I can think Isiah for that. The only thing I can think of that Brown brought to the team was Q Woods.

GM also bought in the other players. THe coach played everybody. Gave the rookies lots of run.

Freedom is earned.

We did it Isiah's way and it don't work.

Two weeks ago it was 80-20 in favor of Brown. Interesting.

[Edited by - nalod on 05-17-2006 4:34 PM]

WAIT A MINUTE... Lets go back and remember what this season was supposed to be about. It was NEVER about a title run or anything like that. We all KNEW this team was going young and that YOUTH was to be the focus of the season. Everyone but LB seemed to get that. We didn't have any great vets who simply HAD to play. Most of our talent was vested in our young players. All we asked LB for was to teach the kids and win about half the games.

It wasn't necessary for him to try and prove how bad the roster was, cuz we already knew it wasn't great yet anyway. DId Isiah EVER try to say that this was his finished product? NO! Isaiah made a point to say that this was just the beginning of the process and that we still had a long way to go. So why are so many fans and media trying to make it seem like this was a finished product and that its such a mess, when its clearly a transitional period for this team. SInce when does a team rebuild and in the 1st year of that process, we bash the GM cuz the teams not championship caliber.

Isiah's 1st half season, was about clearing out the trash. His 1st FULL season, was about seeing if we could makie it work with H2O, KT and Steph. When it became clear that H2O was never going to be able to help, Isaiah made the change of direction at the trade deadline so that we could focus on rebuilding with youth. 2nd Full season, we add 8 new players and most of them are young and talented. So what did he do that was so wrong?

Is there the posibility that Marbury was trying to play LBs way the whole time, but just struggled to get it??? I know he made comments on how he didn't like LBs system. But how does that dispprove that he didn't try the whole time and just struggled to get it.

Would Marbury really just struggle on purpose in leading the offense because he ddin't want to play that way. Especially losing game after game knowing coach isn't going to change. Or was he hesitant because he didn't really know/understand HOW to execute Larry Browns plan at a high level??

Not that he didn't get passing the ball to find the open man. But really get how to make it happen. Marbury isn't a great defender he allways struggled with quicker quards. But I saw effort from Marbury on defense this last season more than I have seen him the past 2 yrs with the knicks. And it takes 5 guys to play with defensive effort in order to be effective.

We just ASSUME Marbury didn't buy into it and didn't care to buy into it. Based of course on our usual source which is the media and the quotes Marbury said. But Marbury didn't put up 20-8 this last season. He was putting up around 18-17pts 6-7assist.(looks like Billups #s with Brown) while the injury's brought it down. Which shows a change.

Did Marbury all of a sudden say okay I will play LBs way when we won 6 in a row or did he finally figure out how to execute it??

"We're getting a better grasp of this," Crawford said after the Knicks extended their longest winning streak since 2003-04. "It takes awhile, but the guys are communicating and we're executing what coach wants."

This was a quote after the Knicks won 4 in a row and beat the Cavs.

Sure when he came back from injury we still struggled. But Marbury rushed back and was playing with an injury the whole time and had to leave latter on in the season. After tasting success did Marbury just say he would rather go back to losing and not play Browns way??

Now at the end of the season. Marbury talked about how he will return to Starbury, he don't care if LB wants to hear it or not. And that he tried LBs way of being a controlled, pass first PG and it didn't work. And that he didn't feel like he was apart of the offense. LB then replys that Marbury played his best ball of the yr on the 6 game win streak. But during the 6 game win streak Marbury took 19shots a game. Thats not really pass first PG type of attempts.

It sounds like a lot of miss communication to me. Did Marbury really understand what LB wanted??