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holfresh
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5/17/2006  10:18 AM

You know what, for a guy with Brown's credentials, you would think he should just take the 25 mil and go coach on the west coast and show the Knicks the mistake that made in not giving him control...Restore his image to what it was before he joined the Knicks...Not this guy, we will watch this train wreck the next week or so dragged out by Brown and his agent to make it look like he was the victim...Theater made only for Broadway..What a joke...




[Edited by - holfresh on 05-17-2006 10:19 AM]
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5/17/2006  10:20 AM
why should brown settle for less than his contract. you think isiah would?
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5/17/2006  10:27 AM
15 mmm is a lot of $ to leave on the table

lb has this team by the cahones and its the knicks own fault

there was 0 ZERO NO NONE reason to sign him to a 5 yr 50mm$ deal----whats wrong with 3 years 21mm with a team option for 4? where else was he going to get that cash and wasnt giving 50mm to a guy who had health pronblems way to much---YES.


dont the knicks ever realize they overpay just a tad:>) to much in EVERYTHING they do? they got themselves into the lb mess--unfortunately for ticket paying knick fans you are the dufs who will be paying to have LB reload his already hefty bank account

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5/17/2006  10:31 AM
Please. This is just negotiating. He'll accept a buyout. The Knicks made or are considering a low offer according to sources ($25 mil) and Brown according to sources is making a high counteroffer (the full $40 mil by firing me). They'll meet somewhere between.
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5/17/2006  10:36 AM
you know what.... I think it's our collective bad as fans that we don't go to MSG and each, separtely, demand 5 year deals to be dedicated posters. The way they are giving out guaranteed contracts it would be fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE for us not to. And you know what, we could probably get them. Isiah may throw in season tickets, but only cause he can't include a first round pick.
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5/17/2006  10:39 AM
Posted by holfresh:


You know what, for a guy with Brown's credentials, you would think he should just take the 25 mil and go coach on the west coast and show the Knicks the mistake that made in not giving him control...Restore his image to what it was before he joined the Knicks...Not this guy, we will watch this train wreck the next week or so dragged out by Brown and his agent to make it look like he was the victim...Theater made only for Broadway..What a joke...




[Edited by - holfresh on 05-17-2006 10:19 AM]

Brown and Glass repsonse to the Knicks buy-out makes more and more sense. There may not be that many job openings and I guess they know it. ESPN2 Cold Pizza just reported that a poll done around the League of NBA execs said that they don't believe Brown will find another job, not just because of the past season record but players' request that the teams do not hire Brown. LOL. I guess Ron Ron already must have had a talk with the Maloofs. Brown is running out of teams.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 05-17-2006 10:40 AM]
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5/17/2006  10:44 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by holfresh:


You know what, for a guy with Brown's credentials, you would think he should just take the 25 mil and go coach on the west coast and show the Knicks the mistake that made in not giving him control...Restore his image to what it was before he joined the Knicks...Not this guy, we will watch this train wreck the next week or so dragged out by Brown and his agent to make it look like he was the victim...Theater made only for Broadway..What a joke...




[Edited by - holfresh on 05-17-2006 10:19 AM]

Brown and Glass repsonse to the Knicks buy-out makes more and more sense. There may not be that many job openings and I guess they know it. ESPN2 Cold Pizza just reported that a poll done around the League of NBA execs said that they don't believe Brown will find another job, not just because of the past season record but players' request that the teams do not hire Brown. LOL. I guess Ron Ron already must have had a talk with the Maloofs. Brown is running out of teams.

i'm not surprised. players seem to be taking over the league anyway. they are getting coaches and gm's fired left and right. why in the hell would they want to play for a drill sargeant. society is changing and the nba is just a sample of it. coddling is necessary...but not necessarily productive.
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5/17/2006  10:50 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by holfresh:


You know what, for a guy with Brown's credentials, you would think he should just take the 25 mil and go coach on the west coast and show the Knicks the mistake that made in not giving him control...Restore his image to what it was before he joined the Knicks...Not this guy, we will watch this train wreck the next week or so dragged out by Brown and his agent to make it look like he was the victim...Theater made only for Broadway..What a joke...




[Edited by - holfresh on 05-17-2006 10:19 AM]

Brown and Glass repsonse to the Knicks buy-out makes more and more sense. There may not be that many job openings and I guess they know it. ESPN2 Cold Pizza just reported that a poll done around the League of NBA execs said that they don't believe Brown will find another job, not just because of the past season record but players' request that the teams do not hire Brown. LOL. I guess Ron Ron already must have had a talk with the Maloofs. Brown is running out of teams.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 05-17-2006 10:40 AM]


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5/17/2006  10:52 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by holfresh:


You know what, for a guy with Brown's credentials, you would think he should just take the 25 mil and go coach on the west coast and show the Knicks the mistake that made in not giving him control...Restore his image to what it was before he joined the Knicks...Not this guy, we will watch this train wreck the next week or so dragged out by Brown and his agent to make it look like he was the victim...Theater made only for Broadway..What a joke...




[Edited by - holfresh on 05-17-2006 10:19 AM]

Brown and Glass repsonse to the Knicks buy-out makes more and more sense. There may not be that many job openings and I guess they know it. ESPN2 Cold Pizza just reported that a poll done around the League of NBA execs said that they don't believe Brown will find another job, not just because of the past season record but players' request that the teams do not hire Brown. LOL. I guess Ron Ron already must have had a talk with the Maloofs. Brown is running out of teams.

i'm not surprised. players seem to be taking over the league anyway. they are getting coaches and gm's fired left and right. why in the hell would they want to play for a drill sargeant. society is changing and the nba is just a sample of it. coddling is necessary...but not necessarily productive.

True, the NBA is run by players. Stern has attempted to try to change that but he is finding it hard. It is damn hard to sell team versus player. But he has no one to blame but himself trying to promote Jordan over team play. Look how fast they were to get Kobe back in the fold.
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holfresh
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5/17/2006  10:54 AM

DJ, not to defend the players ,as their bouts with unprofessionalism has been at an all time high this decade, that has not been seen in all of sports history...That being said, Larry Brown has been a saga on to his own..This show did not start at MSG and won't end there as long as he has a platform...Players suck yeah, they are being paid too much money so they don't give a damn about who tells them what...It's not going to get bette either...We need young players who are enthusiastic about player the game...We don't need more millionare rethreads....I'm off on a tangent...I'm done...
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5/17/2006  11:04 AM
Posted by holfresh:


DJ, not to defend the players ,as their bouts with unprofessionalism has been at an all time high this decade, that has not been seen in all of sports history...That being said, Larry Brown has been a saga on to his own..This show did not start at MSG and won't end there as long as he has a platform...Players suck yeah, they are being paid too much money so they don't give a damn about who tells them what...It's not going to get bette either...We need young players who are enthusiastic about player the game...We don't need more millionare rethreads....I'm off on a tangent...I'm done...


Instead they got Athens times 10. When he wasn't benching LeBron James, Brown spent the 2004 Summer Games ripping his players and the selection committee members who picked them, killing team morale, enraging David Stern and ensuring his place in history as the first coach to lose Olympic gold with NBA stars.

Now Stern has a brand new reason to give Brown the silent treatment when they pass in the hallway: Larry Legend is tearing down one of the league's most important teams. - Ian O'Connor, the Journal News.

Another reason why the jobs are shrinking for Brown.
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djsunyc
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5/17/2006  11:16 AM
hey, lb is 65. this was technically supposed to be his last stop. maybe he just calls it a day. maybe he goes back to college?

with $40 mil coming his way, he has options.
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5/17/2006  11:30 AM
Does Brown even want to coach anymore?
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5/17/2006  12:38 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

not for nothing...but alot of people on this board were in favor of getting kmart. so now, rumor has it brown wanted him, all of the sudden it's too big a risk financially?

Not for nothing, but this is so untrue its almost a lie.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=15756
Here is the poll I started about who wants K-Mart.

Yes        10 24%
No         12 29%
Hell NO!   19 46%
Total      41 99%


75% said some form of NO with a majority of all pollers saying HELL NO!!

We do not want K-mart for a number of issues, only 1 of them is his contract.
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5/17/2006  10:06 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Does Brown even want to coach anymore?


larry brown can keep his job any time he wants to. its only a matter of larry brown behind closed doors with jim dolan giving a sincere apology and backing off the unreasonable demands.

what demands ?......like trading the whole team for starters.

how about larry brown giving jim dolan a vote of coaching confidence.


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5/17/2006  10:29 PM
to me, LB's coaching this year was equivelent to having a neighborhood kid mow your lawn with your lawn mower. You go out to check on him, he's busted the mower and mowed down your rose bed.

This roster wasn't great, but brown drove it into the ground and I am not sure there was a purpose to it.

Quite honestly, if I am dolan, I'd look to hold Brown in breach of his contract- he was supposed to coach the team, make it better. He made it worse
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5/17/2006  11:00 PM
The buyout should be that Larry returns all the money he was paid last year and gets 0 for the rest of his contract. Do the same with every Knick executive.
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5/17/2006  11:32 PM
No way, if you're gonna do that, you'd have to do it with every Knicks player including the rookies. Not that it's even remotely possible of ever happening.
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5/17/2006  11:36 PM
Posted by franco12:

to me, LB's coaching this year was equivelent to having a neighborhood kid mow your lawn with your lawn mower. You go out to check on him, he's busted the mower and mowed down your rose bed.

This roster wasn't great, but brown drove it into the ground and I am not sure there was a purpose to it.

Quite honestly, if I am dolan, I'd look to hold Brown in breach of his contract- he was supposed to coach the team, make it better. He made it worse

If you listen to these guys, it is not about wins and losses, it like some Nietzsche sh$t. He did great things this season I guess. He made Marbury a better man, if you listen to Marbury, he told Francis he may not start until he learns how to play right, don't know why he felt Francis needed to be on this team to educate him, he told Nate not to showboat and showed him where the shotclock was. I guess teaching them how to win comes next season, can't overload them, only year 1.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 05-17-2006 11:37 PM]
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