Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BlueSeats:
IMO, Brown's fault lies primarily in not selling his approach/system/efforts, what have you, to the team, not for wanting a roster overhaul. Larry could have done all he did and wanted all he wanted and it wouldn't have ended this bad if he had been able to sell it, but he didn't really try.
Perhaps he thought he had an understanding with management above, i don't know.
This is why I put the majority of the blame on Brown. The man accepted the position knowing the roster. If you are telling me that he doesn't have the faintest clue about the complexity of changing rosters to fit your specific needs in the league in one season, then yes he should be asked to leave. I mean going to Thomas and giving him ultimatums like he has better get rid of these 5 players if he wants him to coach next season while he is under contract. How would you feel. Now look I don't know the man's health conditions but it seems that he a little problem with self control. If this was a first time thing then it would be a different story, I don't even compare this to any other firing I seen as a Knick fan except one, Nelson.
Phar, lets just look at this 5 players to trade business.
First off, if it was in fact stated as an ultimatum it probably should not have been, but we don't know that it was.
But I would assume LB came in suspecting, based on his olympics experience, that he'd want to lose Steph and Mo. However, he'd also be willing to keep them if they bought in and played D. That's my assumption. No Mo is an expiring contract, so that's not a big deal, so it's really only Steph, who just as well
could have been our best Brown player, had he bought in like, say, Billips.
That's what I think he signed on for, expecting to have to move two, one being easy as an expiring, but also willing to keep Steph if he's a good soldier. But then James turns out to be a waste that disappointed isiah as much as anybody, PLUS, rather than adding a couple of "Brown" guys isiah saddles him with Jalen and Francis too.
So there's our possible 5, with Mo and Jalen easy moves, and Steph, Francis and James fairly understandable considering Isiah STILL hasn't gotten him a single defender yet. Instead he lost AD, our best interior presence and best compliment to Eddy Chubby.
So if there were an ultimatum aspect to it I suspect it came out of bitterness that isiah promised he'd get Brown a couple of "his guys" but instead stuck him with more of what he didn't want.
5/16/2006 2:16 PM
are missing. I know from reading TMS, myself, Nalod, Fish and some of the other guys that support LB that not one of us have said LB did a good job this year. As a matter of fact I'm sure all of us used many of the same adjectives you used. I personally look at a 23 win roster and I know that there is no one associated with it that can remotely say that they weren't a bumb this season. LB was HORRRRIBLE. I've said it 1000 times but some of you guys are so fixated on having him fired that when guys say he should not be fired based on this season it's because we looooooooove him.
